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Lesson 3: Neuron membrane potentials- Neuron membrane potentials questions
- Neuron membrane potentials questions 2
- Neuron graded potential description
- Neuron resting potential description
- Neuron resting potential mechanism
- Neuron graded potential mechanism
- Neuron action potential description
- Neuron action potential mechanism
- Sodium-potassium pump
- Effects of axon diameter and myelination
- Action potential patterns
- Neuron action potentials: The creation of a brain signal
- Action potential velocity
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Neuron resting potential mechanism
Created by Matthew Barry Jensen.
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- somehow I feel like I knew more about resting potential prior to seeing this video. The presenter seems very intelligent but it might be good if he could highlight the key takeaways. He presents a lot of information and it's not clear what MCAT org wants the audience to perceive as important(58 votes)
- Very true. If the video isn't clear in its presentation, the information will still be hard to understand, no matter how simple it is in reality.(10 votes)
- Why is -60mV given as the resting membrane potential when A&P textbooks give it as -70mV?(13 votes)
- My textbook lists it as 56mV, so it just depends on what you are reading, and what they think is a typical value for it, in reality it differs based on the type if neuron you are studying.(15 votes)
- Making organic anions inside the cell cannot create a membrane potential; this violates conservation of charge. The pump adds only 2-3 mV, not 5. Since 2/3 of body water is inside cells, the outside ion concentrations do not remain constant via dilution, but rather through homeostatic control, e.g. via kidney. Pump does not create concentration gradients, cells arrive by fission, so they get them at birth. As you point out, pumps are to maintain the gradients, but do not create them. You might as well use the proper equilibrium potentials, e.g. in a neuron Ek is -90, not -70mV. And resting Vm is usually said to be -70 mV. The ratio of resting permeabilities is 40:1, not 25 to 1.
My suggestions are based on numbers from awhile ago, which might have changed, if so, I apologize. On the whole, this video goes through equilibium and then resting membrane potentials all at once, and quickly. When I teach, I break them up as the concepts often seem counterintuitive. Steve Eiger(3 votes)- None of the complex statements you've made are relevant as so for as a Neuroscientist or Neurophysiologist is concerned. Bringing kinetic theory into the picture is more likely to confuse the topic than to clarify it.(8 votes)
- Atwe are told that the diffusion force will be forcing the K+ out to a lower concentration. However at 5:19we are told that the extracellular fluid is huge and total number of ions in it is huge. Wouldn't this mean that the concentration gradient would always be out to in? I know it isn't but I can't get my head round this point. Thanks 4:34(2 votes)
- You are mixing up amount and concentration.
Inside the cell there is a high concentration of K+, so it would like to escape. But the volume of a cell is very very small.
The outside on the other hand is very very big. so it naturally contain more K+. But the concentration is low. And osmosis follows concentration difference, not amount.
Just like i can make a bottle of salt water with 10% salt.
If i put it in the ocean, with a low 3.5% salt, the diffusion will make the salt leave the bottle. Even though the ocean volume is huge and have much more salt.
I hope yo understand.(10 votes)
- How does the potassium/chloride simporter work if potassium has already equilibrated?(4 votes)
- The K+/Cl- symporter will only work if there is a K+ gradient. It relies on the force from this concentration gradient to operate.(2 votes)
- AT, does that mean that at -120mV, Ca2+ will get pumped outward the neuron? 12:43(2 votes)
- Well, what the guy basically says it is that the concentration inside the neuron of Ca2+ is usually low when it gets pumped out of the neuron with the Ca2+./Na+ pump so if you want a big concentration of Ca2+ inside of the neuron you need to pump as much calcium IN in order to reach (POSITIVE) +120mV. At that value you can say you have enough Ca2+ inside the neuron.(4 votes)
- Do the chloride-potassium symporter and the sodium-calcium exchanger require ATP too? I was thinking about the word symporter so I assumed that has somtething to do with symport? Is that correct?(3 votes)
- You are on the right track; a symporter moves two different molecules in the same direction. However, this mechanism does not require ATP, because one of the participating ions (potassium in the first case and sodium in the second case) is flowing down its gradient, a process that does not require energy input. This action is what powers the transfer of the other ion against its gradient. :)(2 votes)
- i did not get what is resting potential . can anyone explain plz plz(1 vote)
- Resting potencial is the amount of energy generated by the difference between the eletronic charge inside and outside the neuron cell membrane, when the neuron is at rest (not receiving any stimulus). It is caused by the different concentrations of different ions inside and outside the cell membrane.
I hope it was helpful. :)(5 votes)
- Atit is stated: "The neuron is going to be creating organic anions and adding them to the cytoplasm " but it is never explained how or why organic anions are created. 1:05(1 vote)
- What is the significance of the ions in their locations? For example, does it matter that the Na+ or Cl- is in the dendrite, soma, axon, etc?(2 votes)
Video transcript
In this video, I
want to talk about how the neuron resting
potential is created, and how it relates to
concentration differences in some of the important ions
involved in neuron function. Because understanding
the concepts involved in the neuron resting
potential will help us understand
other neuron membrane potential changes, like
the graded potentials and the action potentials. So here I've drawn kind
of a blown up neuron. So we'll have the soma in
red, the axon in green, and one dendrite in blue. And I've blown up the
dendrite axon really large just so I have
some space to draw. It's useful to
consider the formation of the neuron resting
potential in imaginary steps. But in reality, they all
occur simultaneously. So first, let's
consider a neuron with no resting potential. So it's not more positive
outside or more negative inside the membrane. And we'll consider that
all these key ions have the same concentration inside
and outside the neuron. So that there are no
concentration gradients for organic anions, potassium,
sodium chloride, or calcium. Now the neuron is going to
be creating organic anions and adding them
to the cytoplasm. And as organic anions
are being created, most of which are proteins
with a net negative charge, these extra negative
charges that are being added to the
inside of the membrane, are going to create a
small membrane potential. So that now it'll be more
negative inside the membrane of the neuron because of
these extra negative charges. But this will be
something small, like maybe it'll be somewhere
around -5 millivolts. I don't actually know
what this would be, but it's going to be some
small membrane potential. That's not going to be enough
for the neuron to function. But even with a small
membrane potential there will now be
an electrical force acting on the organic anions
because they will be attracted to the more positively charged
outside of the membrane. So that the
electrical force will be trying to drive organic
anions out of the neuron. But they won't be able to
leave because it turns out that the membrane is
highly impermeable to the organic anions. And the same will be true for
the diffusion force caused by the higher concentration
of organic anions inside the neuron compared
outside the neuron. Even though these
electrochemical driving forces are trying to make the
organic anions leave, they can't get past
the neuron membrane. So they're trapped
inside the neuron. So no changes will happen
to the concentrations of the organic anions,
and no further changes will happen to the
membrane potential at this imaginary step. The same is not going to
be true for the other ions. Because the neuron membrane
has channels in its membrane called leak channel,
or leakage channels. And these channels
allow these ions to pass across the membrane,
although how easily these ions ca cross the
membrane to the leak channels is very different
for the different ions. And these leak channels
are open all the time. They're not gated. So they're not opening
and closing in response to some kind of stimulus. For the next imaginary
step, let's consider what happens when we add
the sodium potassium pump to the neuron membrane. So this is going to be
our sodium potassium pump. This will be an active
ion transporter. It will use the energy of
one adenosine triphosphate molecule. I'll write as ATP for short. To actively transport
three sodium ions outside the neuron in
exchange for two potassium ions being transported to
the inside of the neuron. Now by moving more positive
charges outside the neuron then it's moving inside
the neuron, that's going to make the
membrane potential bigger. It's going to make it more
negative inside the neuron membrane. I'm not sure exactly
what size of change that would be but it's
going to be something small. Let's just say for example, it
might be around -10 millivolts. So now we have a bigger
membrane potential. But it's still probably
too small for the neuron to function. Far more importantly
than this change to the membrane
potential however, is that we're going
to have a big change to the concentrations
of potassium and sodium inside the neuron. By pumping potassium
inside the neuron, we will now get a much larger
concentration of potassium on the inside of
the neuron than we have on the outside
of the neuron. And by pumping sodium
outside of the neuron, we're now going to have a much
smaller concentration of sodium on the inside of
the neuron compared to the concentration of sodium
on the outside of the neuron. Now you may be wondering why
the concentrations of potassium and sodium changed
inside the neuron. But they didn't change on
the outside of the neuron. And the reason for that, is that
the extracellular fluid, all of this fluid outside
of the neuron, is huge. And the total number of
ions outside the neuron, and the extracellular
fluid, is very large. Compared to the volume of the
cytoplasm inside the neuron, and the total number of
ions inside the neuron. So that any of these
movements of ions across the membrane
of a neuron, is really going to only change the
concentration of ions inside the neuron. And any change
the concentrations of ions in the
extracellular fluid is going to be negligible. It's going to be so small it's
not even worth considering. There are now opposing
forces on the potassium ions. The electrical
force will be trying to drive these cations in
to the more negative inside of the cell. But the diffusion force will be
trying to drive potassium out of the cell, from a higher
concentration to a lower concentration. At typical neuron
ion concentrations, at this imaginary step,
the diffusion force would actually be much larger
than the electrical force. So while there
are forces pointed in opposite directions
acting on potassium, the net electrochemical
driving force, that is the larger diffusion
force minus the smaller electrical force, will
cause a net movement of potassium ions
out of the neuron through the leak channels. As potassium ions are
leaving the neuron and carrying their positive
charges out of the neuron, that is going to make the
inside of the neuron membrane more negative. The membrane potential is
going to get bigger and bigger with each potassium
ion that leaves. And it's going to continue to do
so until the membrane potential is big enough that the
electrical force trying to drive potassium ions into
the neuron is the same size, but in the opposite direction,
as the diffusion force trying to drive potassium
ions out of the neuron. When these forces are the
same size and pointing in opposite directions,
there is no net movement of potassium ions into
or out of the neuron. The occasional potassium
ion will wander out or wander into the neuron,
but in basically even amounts. For potassium, at typical
neuron ion concentrations, this might occur
around -70 millivolts. Which is more than enough
of a membrane potential for the neuron to function. The membrane
potential, where an ion has balanced electrical
and diffusion forces so that there's
no net movement of that ion across
the membrane anymore, is called the
equilibrium potential. It's also called the
reversal potential. Now it actually doesn't take
that many potassium ions to exit the neuron, to
reach the equilibrium potential for potassium. It's something like less than
1% of 1% of all the potassium ions in the neuron have
to leave for potassium to reach its
equilibrium potential. So that the effect on the
intracellular concentration of potassium is
really negligible. This process does take
a little time though. Because most of the membrane
is impermeable to potassium, and they can only squeeze out
through the leak channels. Now for sodium ions,
both the electrical force and the diffusion
force are strongly trying to drive sodium
into the neuron. Because it's a cation,
so it's attracted to the negative inside
of the neuron membrane, and its concentration is much
higher outside the neuron than inside the neuron. If we had a membrane that
was only permeable to sodium, these cations would
flow into the neuron until so many positive
charges entered the neuron, that it actually wouldn't
be negative inside anymore. It would actually become
positive, at which point the electrical
force would switch. And it would have to get quite
positive inside the neuron for the electrical
force to get big enough to balance the diffusion
force, to reach the equilibrium potential of sodium. Which at typical neuron
ion concentrations may be around positive
50 millivolts. Without input however, when
the neuron membrane is at rest, the permeability of
the membrane to sodium is actually quite a bit less
than it is for potassium. And in fact, the permeability
of the resting neuron membrane to sodium is something
like 4% of that potassium. So quite a bit less. But because some sodium is able
to squeeze through these leak channels, bringing some positive
charges into the neuron, that is going to affect
the membrane potential a little bit. So that instead of being at
the potassium equilibrium potential of around
-70 millivolts, at this imaginary
step it might settle in around -60 millivolts. And that's actually a pretty
typical neuron resting potential. When the membrane is permeable
to multiple ions that have electrochemical
driving forces, the resulting membrane
potential is a weighted average of the equilibrium potentials
of those ions weighted by their permeability. At rest, the neuron membrane
is much more permeable to potassium ions than
it is to sodium ions. So that the resting
potential is much closer to equilibrium
potential of potassium than it is to that of sodium. Because the concentrations
and permeabilities of ions are usually stable in
most resting neurons, the resting potential is
usually stable as well. Now neither potassium
or sodium is at its equilibrium
potential, however. So there will be a small
amount of net movement of both ions across
the membrane. A little bit of potassium
will be dribbling out of the membrane. And a little bit of sodium will
be dribbling into the membrane. This will be matched by
ongoing activity of the sodium potassium pump, which not only
creates these concentration gradients in the first place,
but also maintains them over time. The resting membrane usually
has an intermediate permeability to chloride ions, of around
45% of the permeability to potassium ions. In contrast to
potassium and sodium, whose concentration
gradients play a big role in creating the resting
membrane potential, for chloride the resting membrane
potential plays a big role in determining its
concentration gradient. The membrane potential drives
chloride out of the neuron, until its concentration gradient
is big enough to balance it. So that normally there's
a very small concentration of chloride ions inside the
neuron compared to the outside. And because of that, the
equilibrium potential for chloride is
usually at or close to the typical resting
potential for a neuron of around -60 millivolts. Most neurons have
other active means of decreasing the intracellular
concentration of chloride though. The main one being the
chloride potassium symporter. And this drives chloride
out of the neuron by harnessing the diffusion
force acting on potassium ions. So it lets potassium move out
of the neuron like it wants to, and it harnesses that energy
to also push more chloride ions out of the neuron, further
decreasing the intracellular concentration of chloride. Because of this, the
equilibrium potential of chloride for most
neurons is usually not at the resting potential
of around -60 millivolts. But instead, it's
around -70 millivolts, which will cause some
inward chloride flow, leading to a minor change
in the resting potential to a more negative value. Although usually the
change is negligible. Most neurons also
have active means to decrease the intracellular
concentration of calcium, so that there is a
small concentration of calcium ions inside
the neuron compared to the outside of the neuron. The main one of these being
the sodium calcium exchanger, which I'll show right here,
that drives calcium out of the neuron by
harnessing the energy of the electrical and diffusion
forces acting on sodium. So that the calcium sodium
exchanger allows sodium to enter the neuron in exchange
for pumping calcium out of the neuron. And this creates strong
electrical and diffusion forces trying to drive calcium
into the neuron. And these forces are so big
that the equilibrium potential of calcium wouldn't be
reached until the inside of the membrane was around
positive 120 millivolts, to flip the electrical force
to balance the diffusion force trying to drive
calcium into the neuron. But it turns out that the
resting membrane permeability to calcium is
actually quite small. So that it usually
has little affect on the resting
membrane potential. So while the
concentration gradients of chloride and
calcium ions tend to have little effect on the
resting membrane potential of most neurons, they
do play major roles in other aspects of
neuron functions. Which we'll talk
about in later videos.