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Lesson 3: Siena, the Late Gothic- Siena in the Late Gothic, an introduction
- Duccio, Maestà
- Duccio, Maestà (quiz)
- Duccio, The Rucellai Madonna
- Duccio, Rucellai Madonna (quiz)
- Duccio, The Virgin and Child with Saints Dominic and Aurea
- Ambrogio Lorenzetti, Palazzo Pubblico frescos: Allegory and effect of good and bad government
- Lorenzetti, Allegory and Effect of Good and Bad Government (quiz)
- Lorenzetti, Presentation of Jesus in the Temple
- Pietro Lorenzetti, Birth of the Virgin
- Simone Martini, Saint Louis of Toulouse
- Simone Martini, Maesta
- Simone Martini, Annunciation
- Simone Martini's Annunciation (quiz)
- Siena in the 1300s
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Pietro Lorenzetti, Birth of the Virgin
Pietro Lorenzetti, Birth of the Virgin, c. 1342, tempera on panel, 6 feet, 1 inch x 5 feet, 11 inches, for the altar of St. Savinus, Siena Cathedral (now in Museo dell'Opera del Duomo, Siena) Speakers: Dr. Steven Zucker & Dr. Beth Harris. Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.
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- I can't help but notice that the cloths held by the two women on the right have a very close resemblance to the Jewish Prayer Shawls (called "Tallit" or "Tallis". See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talit ) Is this just a coincidence, or is that because this scene is taking place in ancient Israel?(11 votes)
- I believe the artist did not think of them as talits, because according to the wikipedia article it seems as if wearing the talit by a woman was "not the done thing" during the artist's own time. Covering foodstuff with cloth was common in an age where flies were much more abundant that in a modern city, and bringing food as gift to a woman who has recently given birth is an old tradition. I think artist was probably rendering a normal birth scene for his townspeople. This seems all the more likely because both the interior and the view from the window appear to have been contemporary. At the fourth council of Lateran in 1213 the pope declared that Jews (and Muslims) must wear clothes that distinguished them from Christians. It seems not to have been enforced at all places and times, but if the painter had wanted to make a note of the fact that these people were Jews I would have thought he had gone for anything that could identify the family as Jews.
http://www.geschichteinchronologie.ch/MA/judentum-EncJud_judenfleck-u-judenhut-im-MA-ENGL.html(2 votes)
- Why is the Virgin not smiling, but feels so solemn?(2 votes)
- The reclining figure is actually Mary's mother, Saint Anne. Perhaps her solemnity reflects the significance of the Virgin's birth.(1 vote)
- What in particular influenced Pietro Lorenzetti's almost "bulky" representations of human figures? I find it somewhat strange to see a figure that has, in a sense, a more masculine portrayal, for lack of a better word, but also has idealized fingers.(1 vote)
- Maybe the people around him were that size, too.(2 votes)
- How old is the Temple.(1 vote)
Video transcript
(piano playing) Dr. Zucker: We're in the museum of the Cathedral of Siena and we're looking at one of the great Sienese's
artist, Pietro Lorenzetti's The Birth of the Virgin. This is painted by a man who was Duccio, the great Sienese's master student. Some scholars think that
Pietro helped Duccio paint the Maesta. Dr. Harris: There's a
lot of paintings in the Maesta, I hoped someone helped him. Dr. Zucker: (laughs) That's true. This is a painting that
would have functioned as a secondary altar piece
in the Siena Cathedral. It is a three part painting,
it actually shows one continuous space. Dr. Harris: Well then
let's remember that the Virgin Mary was the protector
of the city of Siena. Dr. Zucker: This is about
the birth of the Virgin, not the birth of Christ, but
the birth of Mary, herself. In the central scene
we have this beautiful Medieval interior. I have to say that the
Sienese pay attention in the 14th Century to
architecture in a way that nobody else does. There is a love of the rendering of space and furnishings. Dr. Harris: We have the
vaulting in the ceiling, the windows, the painted moldings, the tiles on the floor, the
chest next to Anne's bed. We almost get a sense of what it was like in a household in 14th Century Siena. Dr. Zucker: It's true, even
the fact that a bedroom was kind of public space
and you can see Anne reclining on the bed,
she's got a real sense of mask and volume. The bed doesn't look all that comfortable, it doesn't seem to be yielding to her. Dr. Harris: No. Dr. Zucker: But the body does seem to be under that drapery in a most emphatic way. Dr. Harris: I think Pietro has [Sienjato] because his figures are really bulky and three dimensional. Dr. Zucker: Of course,
Duccio, his master was already moving towards a sense of mass and volume using chiaroscuro but perhaps not as
emphatically as Giotto had. Dr. Harris: She's just big and chubby the way that Giotto's figures are. Dr. Zucker: Right, almost like the Ognissanti Madonna. Dr. Harris: Exactly. Dr. Zucker: Yeah, but if
you look at the attendants who are washing Mary in the basin, they're pretty substantial. The figure in green on
the right looks like she could have come right
out of the Lamentation from the Arena Chapel. There are more attendants
coming in with fresh cloths, it looks like, on the right and fresh water. Dr. Harris: The two scenes
on the right are unified in their architecture,
although, Anne is separated out with the mother of Mary. Dr. Zucker: In the left
panel we see a room outside, where it seems as if
Joachim, Anna's husband, is being told that the
birth is taking place. Dr. Harris: I love his face. He's like an expectant
father who's been worried about what's going on and
is now anxious to hear. The view outside must be Siena. As we walked around
the streets of the city I can recognize buildings
that looked like this. Dr. Zucker: Of course
it's important to remember that the architecture that we're seeing is 12th and 13th Century and of course that's 12 and 1300 years after
this event would have taken place, so it's
completely out of chronology. I think the point was to create something that was familiar,
something that the Sienese audience would recognize. I'm also taken with the attempt by Pietro Lorenzetti to create a sense of recession. Not only do you have an
interior space that is architecturally detailed,
but if you look at the vaulting, for
example, you can see where the ribs in the vaulting
come together in the central panel and the panels on the right and the left they're obscured, as they would be if we were looking at those ceilings. This is not linear perspective, but there is a real attention to the basic tenets of seeing space and rendering it on a two dimensional surface. That's also really
evident in the bedspread. Dr. Harris: So there are
diagonal lines that appear to be receding into
space in the bedspread. Dr. Zucker: Right, but I
bet if we lined them up with a pencil we would not reach a single vanishing point. Dr. Harris: No. Dr. Zucker: Right, so it's
not linear perspective. There is a real sensitivity
and a real attempt to create a sense of space. I think the Sienese
were doing just amazing things in the 14th Century. Dr. Harris: So often we
pay attention to Florence and maybe we don't give
Siena quite as much attention as we should. (piano playing)