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I've been the director of photography for lighting on Toy Story 3 inside out and cars 3 when I was in Middle School in high school I was very interested in art I drew all the time my friends looked me for drawings for the Front's of their book reports so I was kind of known for that most of my drawings are horses from that time and that was what I'd like to read about you know black beauty and black stallion and and whatnot and I had a horse I was lucky we lived in an area where people had big huge yards and one of our neighbors let us keep my horse in the yard so that was my childhood actually I can only speak for myself about why I think I was into horses I think there's a couple of reasons one is they represent a kind of freedom in a way you know I could take the horse out and I could ride anywhere I wanted to and my horse was my friend you know I had a relationship with that horse and like he really loved me I would come up to the past year and whistle for him and he'd neigh and come running and um you know so as a girl I you know at that age you know there's not a lot of ways to have control and freedom in your life so you know going up and putting the bridle on my horse and then getting to ride out where I wanted to you know was was really cool so I suspect that might be part of it at least for some girls and he was beautiful I mean they're beautiful animals right and they're powerful some of my earliest memories are drawing memories so I think I've always loved to draw and I've always loved art and since forever as I was growing up my father was very practical and he's like well you can minor in art but you should major in something like veterinary medicine you know you love animals and horses so you could do that in minor in art or maybe major in business and minor in art but my high school teacher was like oh Kim you're passionate about art you love art you'll you know you should pursue that and my mom was also very much the same of the same mind and my dad wasn't pushy or anything he was just practical and so I I realized when I was in high school I had taken some courses in terms of like going out and and doing night stuff with a veterinarian where we were doing dissections on animals and stuff and I realized you know I love animals that I don't want to work inside of them and actually really do love art I'm just gonna go for it I'm gonna not worry about how I'm gonna make a living I'm passionate about it I'll make it work and I also loved photography you know so I thought like me an illustrator I could be a photographer I'm just gonna study it and figure out where it leads and actually it's a good thing for kids now to think about because when I was in school even in college the job that I have now did not exist so it's not like I could have said I want to be a director of photography for lighting you know on CG movies that wasn't even an idea for anybody so it wasn't until I was well out of college that that this role actually became something so I think if you're passionate about something just you know do your best on it work hard at it and then take the opportunities that come to you I mean I was flexible so I you know I learned about computer graphics in college because I loved animation I wasn't crazy about computers but I really loved animation so I took that course and then found that I actually loved computer animation so I think I mean really truly the through line is art but but I feel fortunate to be where I am when I got out of grad school I went to work in a post-production house freelance for a little while maybe about six months and then from there I got a call from a company called Sierra online and they make adventure games and they called me up and they said hey we need somebody that can do graphics for our adventure games can you come out to California and then I was like okay I was young you know and adventurous and and I looked into what adventure games were and I thought these are interesting like the possibilities for narrow narrative and storytelling were really cool and and I could see that there was a lot for me to learn so I went to Sierra online and then I had been there maybe about a year and a half and I went to SIGGRAPH which is a computer graphics conference and they were having a party there was a party that I think it was Disney was throwing at the automobile museum and they were showing a little piece of Toy Story because Toy Story was in production at that time and I went to see it and when I watched that little clip it broke my heart I mean I can't explain to you what that felt like I knew that's where I belong I knew that's exactly what I should be doing and I was sick that I wasn't there and so the moment that Toy Story came out and Pixar put out a call for people to apply I immediately applied I mean I just can't tell you how much I knew that that's where I should go oh they're very proud of me I mean my parents are so excited I mean the other thing about it is that my mother used to take us to see all the Disney movies when I was a little girl whenever they came in the theater we would go to see them and so in my family there was a love of animation and I would come home and I would draw the Dalmatians from hundred one Dalmatians or lady from lady in the [ __ ] and then you know back then you could only see those movies if you went to the theater so it was an event for us so the fact that I'm working on things that my parents really enjoyed watching anyway is very cool to them you know they loved Disney we would go to Disney World when I was a girl so so anyways I think it makes sense to them you