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Lesson 3: Emphysema (COPD)Diffusing capacity of the lung for carbon monoxide (DLCO)
Diffusing capacity of the lungs for carbon monoxide (DLCO) is a medical test that determines how much oxygen travels from the alveoli of the lungs to the blood stream. Learn what DLCO is, how DLCO a good measure of lung disease severity, and why we use carbon monoxide instead of oxygen or carbon dioxide. Created by Amy Fan.
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- How does alveolar hemorrhage increase DLCO?(4 votes)
- Factors that can increase the DLCO include polycythaemia, asthma (can also have normal DLCO) and increased pulmonary blood volume as occurs in exercise. Other factors are left to right intracardiac shunting, and alveolar hemorrhage.
Source: wikipidia(2 votes)
- chronic bronchitis and emphysema are obstructive diseases, but when discussing P1-P2 (~) you say they are diseases that make it hard to get air IN, which would make them restrictive? please clarify what you were trying to say at the end and how, if at all, chronic bronchitis and emphysema alter P1-P2 gradient. thanks. 9:42(3 votes)
- Isn't carbon monoxide poison? And if it is, how does is get in your lungs? Is there a chemical process to this all?(3 votes)
- What is Diffusion capacity normally adjusted for? In my answer it says DLCO adjusted. I know it is not adjusted for haemoglobin.
/Malin(2 votes) - I have a relatively a normal spirometry but a dlco of 50. A CAT scan shows chronic copd, mild emphysema and chronic interstitial disease. My pulmonary doctor says to repeat CAT scan in six months. Is that reasonable?(1 vote)
- This website is not for medical advice; ask your Doctor.(2 votes)
- I know this is kind of a weird question but, what if the P1 had less pressure than the P2? Would the P2 be forced into the back into P1?(1 vote)
- if he holds the carbon monoxide for too long he can die right??
isnt that dangerous?(1 vote)- no, it is only one breath, that is not enough to die even if held for a longer time [eventually they will take a breath to replenish everything].
CO is dangerous if you are continuously breathing it so the body favours it over O2, leading to not enough oxygen in the bloodstream.(1 vote)
- what do you mean by discussion(0 votes)
- Why use carbon monoxide and not any other gas, CO affects your health very seriously(0 votes)
Video transcript
Voiceover: There's a test that can tell us how well diffusion is going in the lungs. It's got one of those acronym names that are really hard to remember. It starts with a D for diffusion and then L because it's in the lungs and then CO, standing for carbon monoxide, let me write that out, carbon monoxide. That's the gas we use to do this test. And you're right, it's the same scary gas
that we're afraid of of being in our homes
because it can poison us. We'll get to in just a
second why we use this gas. I guess to get really technical, diffusion will be talking about moving from a high concentration
to a low concentration, but for our purposes, let's think of it as a gas
moving across a barrier from place A to place B. In this case in the lungs, we have an alveolus, which is the end of the
airway in the lungs. This is where gas
exchange will take place. That is covered by this
layer of blood vessels. We care about how diffusion goes here because usually, its job, this whole area, is to have one gas diffuse from
the airspace into the blood and another one from the
blood to the airspace. Of course, this one is oxygen, and this one going from
blood into the lungs is carbon dioxide. This test is able to
answer that question of how well can the lungs move
a gas into the bloodstream? To do this test, we have our patient here. Let's call him Mr. D for diffusion. Mr. D here, if we look at his airway, it's connected to his mouth, and it's also connected
to his nose up here, so here through his nostrils. Theoretically, that could
go also down the airway. To isolate all the numbers
and data we're getting, his nose is going to be plugged, so he can only breathe through his mouth. We put a mouthpiece into his mouth, and I can't draw what the
machine really looks like, but just to get the idea here, we have one reservoir there. He breathes in through here, and then when he blows it out, the air goes to another machine. Let's draw it like this. In the first one where
he's breathing from, it's full of carbon monoxide, the gas that we mentioned. It's part of the name of this test. He takes a big breath as
much as he can breathe in, so carbon monoxide goes down, down his pipes into his lungs, and it fills his lungs. Now a certain amount gets absorbed here into the bloodstream, and then when he can't
breathe in any more, he holds it for a second,
for just a split second, and then he blows it all
out as much as he can go, keep going, keep going
until he has no air left. Now the computer is able to
calculate two things for us. One is how much carbon
monoxide he breathed in and then how much he breathed back out. We care about these two
numbers because essentially, how much you took in minus
how much came back out equal however much went
into his bloodstream. That's the amount that
was diffused across. If we come back and look
at this drawing here, the carbon monoxide goes in here. It fills this airspace. A certain amount, if it
crosses in the bloodstream and then all that's still
left in the airspace, when he breathed out, it comes out here, so there is nowhere
else for the gas to go. It either went in the
bloodstream or it came back out. Therefore, our equation
here gives us an estimate of how much gas diffused across. The reason we use carbon monoxide instead of the two gases that
usually are in the lungs, the oxygen, the carbon dioxide, is because of hemoglobin. Hemoglobin is something in our blood. It's part of the red blood cell, and its job is usually to
carry these gases in our blood. It can carry actually multiple gases. First, it can carry carbon dioxide, which, for our purposes,
is a waste product. The body makes carbon dioxide, hemoglobin takes it up, and then when it gets to the lungs, it exchanges the carbon
dioxide for oxygen. Back here, when we talked
about these two gases being one going in, one going out, the vehicle is hemoglobin carrying it. Now a third gas it carries is,
of course, carbon monoxide. This is not usually part
of what we breathe in. We just so happen to know that hemoglobin not only carries carbon monoxide but actually has a huge preference for it. It plays favorites. This is like its favorite kid. Here's why we use it in this test, is because since it likes
carbon monoxide so much, we're able to maximize diffusion, maximize diffusion. Because when the hemoglobin in the blood sees the carbon monoxide, it grabs all of it up and gives us that
maximum value of how well the diffusion is happening. But the reason we're so afraid of having carbon monoxide at home is if you can imagine your air at home, there is a leak and there's
carbon monoxide in the air, many, many molecules of that, and there's also regular
oxygen that we usually want. If you're hemoglobin
and you're picking out of these gases to pick up, you're going to choose
all the carbon monoxide because you just like it better. Instead of carrying
oxygen, it's going to carry carbon monoxide like this. Now this is a problem
because hemoglobin's job is to take the oxygen all over. It can take the carbon
monoxide to the same places, but our body can't use carbon monoxide. It's useless to us. Now it's OK for Mr. D to
breathe in one breath of this, but if you do this for a couple of minutes and you're breathing carbon monoxide instead of oxygen, then this person is quickly, their oxygen level is going to drop, so they're basically suffocating even though they're still
moving air in and out. That's why carbon monoxide
poisoning is so serious. Coming back to talk about diffusion, what on earth exactly are
we testing for in the lungs? So what, it can diffuse well, but what does it mean if it
does or does not diffuse well? Let's look an equation of how gas behaves and what are the things
that affect diffusion. The volume of gas that
can move across a barrier is equal to the area, surface
area that's going across divided by thickness of the membrane, or I'm sorry, the barrier. Once applied to a constant, this constant, as experimentally found, is related to the gas, so we're not going to
worry too much about that. But it's also related
to the partial pressure of the first place minus
the partial pressure of the second place, with
respect to whatever gas. OK, let's tackle this one thing at a time. This first glob here,
the area over thickness, that's really talking about
the nature of this septum, the nature of the barrier
that we have to move across. In our case, assuming
the blood vessels are OK, we're really looking at the
membrane of the alveolus here. The tissue of the lungs, what
is the condition of that? For the gas to go through
here, what is the surface area? What is the thickness? Now remember, for fractions, whatever is in the top of the fraction, if area goes up, then volume goes up, but if thickness goes
up, volume goes down. Let's say something that
can affect the surface area would be a disease such as emphysema, where the lung tissue is being destroyed and you literally get less
surface area for diffusion. In emphysema, the area goes down. And area goes down, the
volume is going to go down too because this is at the
top of the equation. Another example, something that
might affect that thickness would be, let's say, fibrosis, where the lung tissue gets
scarred and thickened, there's too much connective tissue. The thickness would go up. And because that's at the
bottom of the equation, that actually drives the volume down too. You see how both these
diseases would drive down the amount of the gas that goes across, and that's how they both
impair the lung function. Now for partial pressures, I find the concept a little confusing. Let's try to look at it this way. Say there's a barrier, that you're a certain
gas and you want to go from area one to area two. Now how willing this gas is
to make its way over here depends on how much of it is
on either side of this barrier. Say, in the first scenario, if there is a ton of
particles in the first area and only one or two or here, let's say four particles there, that's going to have a huge
drive to push it over this way because the partial pressure
of P1 is really high, and the P2 is really low. This absolute difference between
the two is a driving force. In the other case, if we
have about this much P1 here and then P2 is about the same, then this drive is going to be very small. There is not that much
force pushing it over. That's the same concept here, P1 minus P2. In asking what's the difference in the gas in the airspace versus in the blood, really, the question is how much gas did we get into the area? How much gas was Mr. D able to breathe into his alveolus? P2 here should be about zero. There should be no carbon
monoxide in your blood, so if you breathe a lot of it in, then the P1 minus P2 will be large. The more of a difference
between P1 and P2, the higher the volume for diffusion. The diseases that affect
this part of the equation are the diseases that make it hard for air to get into the lungs, let's say chronic bronchitis. There's all this mucus and blockage, so the air can't get into the alveolus. The lack of that air
pressure in the airways, that's going to have a lower P1 minus P2. Actually, also with fibrosis
and also with emphysema, they're also bad for the
partial pressure difference because it's hard to get air in. As you can see, for
this test for diffusion, many different diseases in
many different mechanisms can affect the diffusion. This is not really a diagnostic
test as much as it tells us how severe somebody's disease is.