Main content
Pain and temperature
Explore our senses of pain & temperature. By Ron. Created by Ronald Sahyouni.
Want to join the conversation?
- Atthere is a correction stating "Ron said "A beta fibers" but meant " A delta fibers."" However later Ron refers to the medium size fiber as A delta fibers - which is which? 5:14(51 votes)
- I believe the correction is wrong, Ron saying A-beta as the fast fibers is correct!
https://brainstuff.org/blog/adelta-c-fibers-difference-pain-information(9 votes)
- Aren't our cells always dying? So why aren't TRPV1 receptors always sending pain signal to our brains?(15 votes)
- Old cells in our body die by a mechanism called apoptosis. In short, it is "programmed cell death". This means that a specific sequence of events occurs inside the dying cell to properly destroy all components. Further, once dead, this cell is immediately recognized by phagocytes which engulf it and thereby prevent inflammation. None of the dead components are allowed to interact with surrounding cells.
But when a needle pricks our skin, some cells die accidentally and thus in an unprogrammed way. This causes the affected cells to swell and burst. The contents of the cells are discharged into the surroundings and are detected by neighbouring receptors. It takes some time for the phagocytes and macrophages to remove the debris. Meanwhile, TRPV1 receptors are stimulated.(38 votes)
- What happens in people who can't feel pain, like people with congenital analgesia?(15 votes)
- Since pain is protective in function, people with congenital analgesia are likely to get injured without them even realizing it, further causing damage to that part of the body by not allowing it to rest/treating it. People may even purposely injure themselves(often children who don't understand what they're doing) because it does not cause any suffering to them, so they have no initiative to stop. They need to be regularly examined for signs of injury.(24 votes)
- The video talks about how pain and temperature are connected via the TrpVI receptor, but is there any connection to dryness and wetness as well? Sometimes when I touch something cold, my brain processes that as wet. Is that because wetness is also incorporated into nociception?(9 votes)
- So why is it that some use Capsaicin as a natural form of pain relief (you can find this product at health food stores and possibly a pharmacy). Although this cannot be true, it seems as if the Capsaicin would just activate more nocioceptors, therefore exacerbating the pain not relieving it.(5 votes)
- Yes, it's true Capsaicin is used to relieve pain however it's used topically like as in cream and some patches. Capsaicin alleviates the pain by desensitizing certain sensory receptors that carry the signal to the brain and also decreases the production of Substance p which is a neurotransmitter necessary for perception of pain.(7 votes)
- If I pinch my skin, why do I feel pain ?
Following the video :
- No cell is being destroyed (is it true ?)
- No temperature effect
I would say that I'm not supposed to feel any pain.
Nevertheless, I just tried it, and it does hurt ^^ !(4 votes)- The neurons in the skin have receptors, dendrites, that are stimulated. They send action potentials, APs, to the brain and neurons in the brain interpret those APs as pain. Some neurons are dedicated to touch, temperature or pain, however, too much stimulation of any neuron will be interpreted as pain by the brain. Think about noise, too much causes us to say that was painful. Yes, you are supposed to feel pain, it keeps us alive. No cell is destroyed from a pinch.(5 votes)
- Do people with pain conditions such as fibromyalgia have more of the fast A-Beta Fibers than people without pain conditions?(6 votes)
- Is there a video that explains how mammals use negative feedback loops to maintain optimal internal temperatures? Basically, how do we regulate temperature?(4 votes)
- what happens with chronic pain when there is no longer any outside stimulus but pain still persists?(4 votes)
- Central and peripheral sensitization.., threshold of the Ab, Ad and C receptors change in the peripheral tissue like (RCPS)such the area becomes more sensitive to normal stimuli (peripheral sensitization) that results in changes taking blace in several areas of the brain (central sensitiation)(1 vote)
- Are pain and temperature receptors different somehow? (I.e. different forms of TrpV1?) If not, how do we tell the difference between pain and temperature?(2 votes)
- It depends on what type of nociceptor we're talking about. Ron generalized to the extreme on this video lol, we actually have a few different types of TRP channels for different types of nociception. We actually have an enormous family of TRP channels involved in a whole bunch of different processes! To give you a bit of an idea, TRPM8 is the predominant channel involved in the detection of noxious cold stimuli, and may be modified by other types of TRP channels. As for noxious mechanical stimuli, I don't think researchers are actually quite sure what protein receptor is responsible for transduction.(4 votes)
Video transcript
So two senses that are extremely
important for our survival are our sense of pain and
our sense of temperature. And, of course, we have
more scientific terms for pain and temperature. So pain is known as nociception,
and temperature, our ability to sense temperature, is
known as thermoception. So how is it that we're able
to sense pain and temperature? Well, just like all
of our other senses, we rely on a very
specialized type of receptor found in various
cells throughout our body. And in this case, in order
for us to sense temperature, we rely on a receptor known
as the TrpV1 receptor. And interestingly enough,
this TrpV1 receptor is also sensitive to pain. And we're going to go
into how this receptor is able to recognize when there's
some kind of painful stimulus in the environment. So over here, I have a
little representation of what the TrpV1
receptor looks like. And this is not-- you
don't need to know this, you don't need to memorize this. This is just to give you an
idea of what it looks like. It's a very complex
structure, and it's actually located within
the cell membrane. So you have cells that are
sensitive to temperature and pain located throughout
your entire body. And within the membrane
of each one of these cells are thousands of these
little receptors. And how this receptor
works is whenever there's a change
in temperature-- so let's imagine that you
place your hand on the stove, so there's a little fire. I know you can't see that. So let's imagine that there's
a little fire under here. The heat actually causes
a conformational change in this protein. And basically what a
conformational change is, is just a change in the physical
structure of the protein. So you can imagine that we--
the protein was a little box. And you apply heat to it. Maybe we'll make it
look like a rectangle. So this is the general idea
behind a conformational change. So when heat is applied
and also when pain applied via a particular molecule, you
have a conformational change in the TrpV1 protein. So let's look at a
diagram of a hand and go into this in a
little bit more detail. OK, so here we have a hand. And as I mentioned
before, we have cells located
throughout the hand. And these cells are sensitive
to temperature and to pain. And within these cells,
there are TrpV1 receptors. So let's imagine that
each one of these cells sends a little projection
to a nerve that eventually reaches the brain. So these cells, whenever
they are stimulated by either a change
of temperature or the presence of some
sort of painful stimulus-- so we keep saying
a painful stimulus. So what can that be? So let's imagine that
something pokes your hand. So let's imagine that
we have a sharp object, and it pokes your hand. What happens is, the
cell, when it gets poked, thousands of cells
get broken up. So the cell gets broken up. And when it gets
broken up, it releases all kinds of
different molecules. And these molecules
will travel around. So let's imagine it releases
this little green molecule. It will travel
around, and it will bind to one of the
little TrpV1 receptors. And when it binds
to a TrpV1 receptor, it causes the same
conformational change that a change in
temperature causes. And so that conformational
change actually activates the cell, and
the cell will send a signal to the brain. So this nerve over here actually
contains three different types of fibers. So there are fast,
medium, and slow fibers. And let's go into why we
have three different fibers. So fast fibers are really,
really fat in diameter. So we have these
really big, fat fibers, and they have a lot myelin. So they are covered in myelin. And what myelin is,
it's an insulator that basically allows the
cell to conduct an action potential very quickly. So as an action potential or as
a signal travels down the cell, if we have a lot of myelin
surrounding the cell, the signal is able to
travel really quickly. And another way that a signal
is able to travel quickly is if the cell has a
really big diameter. So a big diameter
lowers the resistance. So you have less
resistance and you have greater conductance
because of the myelin. And these two things
produce a very fast-- a cell that is able to produce--
send a signal pretty quickly. So these types of fibers
are known as A-beta fibers. And these fibers are able to
send a signal really quickly to your brain
saying, hey, there's some sort of change
in temperature. It's really hot, or
there is something that's painful, and
allows you to withdraw your hand from that painful
or really hot stimulus. We also have medium fibers. And basically
these medium fibers are a little bit
smaller in diameter. So they might be about this big. And they have a little
bit less myelin. And since they have a
little bit smaller diameter and a little bit
less myelin, they don't conduct a signal as
quickly as these fast fibers. So these medium diameter fibers
are known as A-delta fibers. So these A-delta
fibers are also found in this big nerve that
goes to your brain. And there's one
more type of fiber. So there's a slow fiber. And this slow fiber-- I'll
draw it out over here-- is really small in diameter,
and it's unmyelinated. And so this sends a
signal very, very slowly. It does get your brain,
but it takes a lot longer for the signal to
get your brain. So one way that we could
conceptualize these three different fibers is if you think
about touching a hot stove. Your hand quickly moves
away from the hot stove. So this is this really
big A-beta fiber activating to get your
hand off the hot stove. Then you feel this really
quick sensation of pain immediately after you
touch the hot stove. So that's this A-delta fiber
sending a painful stimulus to your brain. And for minutes to maybe
even hours after you've removed your hand
from the hot stove, you feel this lingering
sense of pain. You feel this burning sensation. And so those are these C fibers
that really small in diameter and unmyelinated. So we went into
how temperature can induce a conformational
change in this TrpV1 receptor and how that conformational
change can cause a cell to send a signal to the brain. So let's go to how pain
can do the same thing. So whenever you
eat a jalapeno, you might have notice that you
get this-- you start sweating. Everything feels
like it's burning. And you basically have the
same physiological response that you would if it
was really hot outside. And that again is because
this temperature receptor is the same receptor
as a pain receptor. So when you eat a jalapeno--
I'm drawing a little jalapeno. When you bite into the
jalapeno, again, you break the cells apart. And the cells contain a
molecule known as capsaicin. So I'll write that down
over here-- capsaicin. And this capsaicin molecule
exits the jalapeno cell and travels around
until it binds to a TrpV1 receptor
in your tongue. So this is a TrpV1
receptor in the hand, but let's imagine that
it's in the tongue. And it triggers
the same response that a change in
temperature would. And so your body reacts
to this capsaicin molecule in the same way
that it would react to a change in temperature. So if it was really hot outside,
you would start sweating. You'd feel this
burning sensation. And so that is why when you
eat a really hot chili pepper you have that type of response. So in summary, we
have our ability to sense pain, which is
known as nociception, and our ability to
sense temperature, known as thermoception. And these two senses rely
on this TrpV1 receptor that is found within various
sensory cells located throughout our body. And the TrpV1
receptor is activated by changes in temperature and
by molecules, such as capsaicin, or by molecules found
within dying cells. And it can activate
this TrpV1 receptor and send a signal to your
brain, letting your brain know that, hey, there
are painful stimulus, or there's a change
in temperature, and allows you to
react to that stimulus.