Ether naming and introduction
Ether naming and introduction. Created by Sal Khan.
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- what would be the IUPAC name of di isopropyl ether?(5 votes)
- I think an IUPAC-acceptable way of naming for ethers is to use #-oxa, where oxa is the location of the O on the chain. For diisopropyl ether, it would be 2,4-dimethyl-3-oxapentane. The longest chain is five atoms long, so it's pentane, but since oxygen is in the 3-position it's 3-oxapentane, and since there are 2 methyls in the 2- and 4-positions it's 2,4-dimethyl-3-oxapentane.(2 votes)
- Sal says 1-ethoxy ethane but isnt the ethoxy attached to the second carbon of the ethane?(5 votes)
- Wait what from both sides its attached to the second carbon. How does this work?(2 votes)
- I don't understand why he said cyclohexyl on the left and cyclohexane on the right. Help?(4 votes)
- The second name is the IUPAC name, in which you pick the base name of the compound (cyclohexane) and add the name of the attached group (propoxy) to get the name of the compound (propoxycyclohexane).
The first name is the common name, in which you put the names of the alkyl groups before the word ether.
You form the name of an alkyl group by replacing the ending -ane of the alkane with the ending –yl, so cyclohexane forma a cyclohexyl group.
The name of the compound becomes cyclohexyl propyl ether.(3 votes)
- Can we call water as dihydrogen ether?(3 votes)
- No, ethers are organic molecules with two non-carbonyl carbons bonded to the same oxygen. Water contains no carbon at all!
Note that if you considered water as an ether, then alcohols would also be ethers — since water, alcohols and ethers all have very different properties this would not be a useful way to name compounds.(3 votes)
- @ time of4:19- I thought prefixes weren't included when naming things alphabetically. So shouldn't methyl be listed before isopropyl then?(1 vote)
- It's all very inconsistent. We just have to remember that cyclo, iso, neo, and spiro are considered as part of the name. They are not treated as prefixes, so isopropyl comes before methyl.(4 votes)
- the 2-methoxypropane.....shudn't it b 2-methoxy-1-methylethane?????(0 votes)
- that wouldn't work because the parent chain is always the longest and in this case it is propane. If you number the carbons, you get the number 2 for the carbon that has the methoxy attached to it therefore, 2-methoxypropane(3 votes)
- @3:08wouldn't it be 2-ethoxy ethane instead of 1-ethoxy ethane?(0 votes)
- We try to make the numbers appearing to be as small as possible. You can start counting from either side, but starting from the oxygen side gives 1-ethoxy ethane, with a smaller number, 1.(3 votes)
- If hydrogen and carbon have fairly similar electronegativity, why doesn't oxygen pull the electrons away from the first carbon of the R and R' groups? Although this still wouldn't be hydrogen bonds wouldn't the solution bond together because of the dipoles created?(1 vote)
- Yes, the R-O-R' bonds are polar, with their negative ends toward the O.annot H-bond with each other , but they can H_bond with water and alcohols.(3 votes)
- 9.50 onwards shows a hydrogen bond between the oxygen dipole and the hydrogen dipole. I have been taught that it is instead between the oxygen lone pair and the hydrogen dipole. Which one is correct?(1 vote)
- The hydrogen bond donor is a hydrogen attached to an electronegative atom. this dipole interacts with the induced dipole of a H-bond acceptor (a LONE PAIR OF ELECTRONS on an electronegative element).(3 votes)
- at10:20, we are talking about no hydrogen bonding in ethers.. because the O is bonded to two R groups,but what if one of the areR' is an Hydrogen atom, will H-bonding occur then?
Thanks in advance(0 votes)
- Hydrogen bonding occurs when a hydrogen is attached to O, N, and F. So yes, if it had a hydrocarbon chain on one side, and an OH on the other, hydrogen bonding would take place, and you'd have an alcohol.(7 votes)
We've already touched on ethers in several videos. They've been our useful aprotic solvent in several of our reactions. But I thought it was about time that we actually devoted a video or two to ethers. And like all things that we've done in organic chemistry, a good way to familiarize ourselves with the molecules and how they look, is to actually name them. So let's do a couple. And the first few you've seen already. So let's say we have this molecule right here. What I'm going to do is I'm going to teach you two ways to name it. The common name, and that's probably the more important one, especially with ethers. Because, as you could imagine, that is the more common name. That is what people say. And then I'll also show you how to name it using the IUPAC name. So let me write this down. IUPAC name, which is the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry. And they've come up with kind of the official naming protocols for all of these organic molecules. This is actually the convention that we used earlier when we did the alkanes and the alkenes. But in the case of ethers, the common name is more common. So the common name for this molecule right here. You look at the two carbon groups here. So let's see. You have this one right here. That is an ethyl group. That's an ethyl group right there. You have one, two carbons. And then you look at the other carbon group right over there. That's also an ethyl group. You have one, two carbons. So you call this-- let me just write this down-- that is also an ethyl group. So the common name for this is just diethyl ether. And the ether tells you, this part tells you, that you have an oxygen in between your two ethyl groups. This is the common name. Now the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry official name for it. You kind of do something similar to how we named other things before. You look for the longest chain. Let me redraw it. So maybe on the left hand side I'll do the common names. On the right hand side I'll do the IUPAC names. So let me redraw what the common name of the diethyl ether. You look for the longest chain. In this case, there's two longest chains. There's this one that has one, two carbons. And then you have this one, that has one, two carbons. So you can pick either one. I'll just pick this one as the main chain right over there. It has two carbons, no double bonds. It is an ethane. And then you say, OK, I have this alkoxy group. We put the oxy at the end of it because it has this oxygen right here. But it's the alk part of it has two carbons, one, two. So we call this right here, we call this ethoxy. So one other way to name this, we have this ethoxy group attached to the one carbon. We're just going to start numbering on this side of the ethane, just because that's where the group is, attached to the one carbon. So we call this 1-ethoxyethane. You'll almost never see it actually named this way, even though this is the official name. You're much more likely to see this as diethyl ether. And at least in my brain, this resonates a lot more. You just say what are the two groups. And you throw the ether at end. You know that there's an oxygen in between. Let's do a couple more of these. So let's say I have this molecule right here. I have this molecule right over here. The common way is you look at the two groups on either side of the oxygen. So this right here-- let me do this in a different color-- this group on the left right here, we have one, two, three carbons. It's a propyl group, but we're attached to that middle carbon. So this is an isopropyl group. And on the right hand side right here, we just have one carbon. So this is right here-- I keep using that blue-- this right here, this is a methyl group. So the common way of naming it, you just list both of these groups and then you write ether. And you list them in alphabetical order. I comes before m. So this is, the common name is isopropyl methyl ether. Now if we were to do the IUPAC naming, we look for the longest carbon chain. Let me redraw the molecule itself. So let me redraw the same thing right there. So what's the longest carbon chain here? Well we have one, two, three carbons right there. We only have one carbon right there. So this thing right here is our longest carbon chain. It has three carbons on it, and it had no double bonds. So eth, meth, prop, propyl, or it's actually propane. So this is our longest. So we write propane right there, because we're using the IUPAC naming mechanism. And then we look at this methoxy group right here. And I call this a methoxy group, because I have the o. That gives us the oxy. And I just have a methyl group right here. So this is methoxy. You remember that meth is the prefix for just having only one carbon. We add the oxy because that oxygen is there. And it's attached to the two carbons on the propane chain, no matter what direction you start naming from, or numbering from. One, two, three. So this is 2-methoxypropane. Let's do another one. Let's do one more. And I think you'll get the gist of at least the reasonably simple ethers to name. So let's put a ring over there. And then that's attached to an oxygen. And then we have another carbon chain right here. And then we have another carbon chain right there. Let me just copy and paste that so that I don't have to redraw it. So let me copy and paste. All right. So let's do the common name first. That always tends to be a little bit more fun. So on this side, we have one, two, three, four, five, six carbons in a cycle. This right here on the left hand side is a cyclohexyl group. This on the right hand side, we have one, two, three. This is just a straight-up propyl group. And so when you name the ether, you just put these two groups in alphabetical order, and you add an ether at the end. So it's cyclohexyl. C comes before p. So it's cyclohexyl propyl. Let me get that shade of yellow right. Cyclohexyl propyl ether. Now let's do the IUPAC way to name it. So you look for the longest carbon chain here. In this case, it's going to be the cyclohexane right here. We have one, two, three, four, five, six carbons there. We only have one, two, three there. So this is kind of our backbone. So we write down cyclohexane. No double bonds, so it's a hexane. So that's the cyclohexane right there. If you just had these three carbons, it would be a propyl. But this is not just three carbons. It's three carbons and then an oxygen. So we would call it a propoxy. So this is propoxy group. And you don't have to number it because it can just be attached to any of these carbons. It would essentially be the same molecule. So you can just call this propoxy cyclohexane. Let me make it a little bit closer to the cyclohexane. Propoxy cyclohexane. But once again the common name is what you're more likely to see. Now that we've named a few of them, let's think a little bit about their properties. What we've seen already is that-- and we've used it several times, especially in our Sn2 reactions and things like that-- places where we didn't want protons floating around. We used actually diethyl ether. And in general ethers do make for good solvents. They tend to be fairly unreactive. So good solvents. Especially when you're looking for an aprotic solvent. Remember, aprotic means you don't have hydrogens that can kind of lose their electron to maybe an electronegative atom like an oxygen. And then the proton just floats around, and then can go and react with other things. This does not have any hydrogens directly bonded to an oxygen in any of these cases. So it is an aprotic solvent. And because it doesn't have any hydrogens bonded to the oxygen, you also have no hydrogen bonding. And just as a bit of a review, you know that in water you have the situation-- let me draw some water molecules-- in water you have the situation where the oxygen hogs the electrons. So it has a partial negative charge. Hydrogen gets its electrons hogged or taken away, or it spends less time with them. So it has a partial positive charge. So this oxygen will have a partial negative charge. And so the hydrogens with the partial positive charge are attracted to the oxygens with the partial negative charge. And you have this hydrogen bonding. And this hydrogen bonding makes water. It pulls the molecules together. So you need to put more energy into it for it to either melt, or for it to actually boil. And for the molecules to kind of get ripped away from each other. And that's also true with alcohols. Alcohols only have one hydrogen to each oxygen, but they still have the hydrogen bonding going on. In the case of ethers, there is no hydrogen bonding. I'll represent each of the carbon chains with an R and an R. I'll write R prime right here to show that it could be a different carbon chain than this right here. And the R stands for radical. Not to be confused with free radical. Completely different things. This R just means really a carbon chain attached to this oxygen. But here there's no hydrogen getting its electrons hogged by oxygens with partial positive and partial negative charges. So you're not going to have that type of hydrogen bonding. And because of that, ethers have much lower melting and boiling points. It's much easier. You have to put less heat into the system for these molecules to break away from each other, because they aren't attracted to each other as much.