Class 12 Physics (India)
Calculating displacement & conduction current
Let's apply Ampere Maxwell's equation to calculate the magnetic field near charging capacitor plates. The displacement current inside the wire is negligible, while that between the capacitor plates is not. Created by Mahesh Shenoy.
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- Excellent explanation! In practicality, is the displacement current lower than the conduction current in a circuit due to some conversion losses? What could be the practical range of efficiency here? Thank you very much.(3 votes)
- I have the same question as festavarian2; can someone please answer?(1 vote)
- At 8:86 you say the electric field (E) between two capacitor plates is sigma/epsilon-naught., but that assumes you are treating them as infinite plates of charge. Then you proceed to assign an AREA to them with pi(R^2) to get the total charge.
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the goal of this video is to use ampere's maxwell's law to calculate the magnetic field at point p and q in this case of charging capacitor now before we begin just a quick recap of what this equation is all about but remember this part is just the ampere's law and we explored in the previous video it was not sufficient to explain to calculate magnetic fields in all places so it was in sense incomplete and that's where maxwell stepped in and he completed that equation by adding this additional term called the displacement current and now this is a complete equation and we can use this to calculate magnetic fields anywhere now if you're not familiar with that additional term what this displacement current is or why did he include that it would be a great idea to go back and watch our previous videos on displacement current and ampere maxwell's law so if you're fine with this let's go ahead so like i said in this video we're going to put this equation to the test and calculate the magnetic field at point p and point q so let's start by calculating magnetic field at point p how do i do that well just like what we used to do for ampere's law the first step is to choose an amperian loop a closed loop basically so i want to choose a closed loop that passes through point p because this is where i want the magnetic field and the loop i'm going to choose is circle because it's nice and circular symmetric so we're going to choose a circular loop over here and in fact that's the reason why we have chosen circular plate capacitor so it just becomes easier for us to do these calculations all right next what's next well now i have to walk across that loop and calculate what b dot dl is now before i do that i have to choose which direction should i walk across and this is something we've done before so we're doing it one more time so how do i walk across well because i know that the current is to the right from the right hand thumb rule if you imagine our four fingers if you imagine your right hand oops if you imagine your right hand thumb to be towards the right then your four fingers i hope you can imagine is going to circle this way and so i know my magnetic field is going to be in this direction it's going to come out of the screen it's going to go this way and because i want the dot product to disappear i will also walk in the same direction so i'm going to choose to walk this way so now if i calculate b dot d l at every point b and d are in the same direction and so b dot d l just becomes b d l and this is if this looks familiar because this is the same thing we have done before when we're just using ampere's law so let's do that so the left-hand side would just become the integral of bdl remember our goal is to calculate the magnetic field b b dl b dot dl just becomes bdl and now i can say that everywhere the magnetic field is the same because of circular symmetry so i can pull that b out and what is the integral of dl well the integral of dl is just adding all these tiny tiny dl vectors and when you do that you just get the length of this without the circumference and circumference would be 2 pi r so this would be 2 pi r that's our left hand side now the right hand side let's see what's that going to be equal to mu naught times what is this what is i enclosed i enclose is the current that is punching through a surface attached to this to this loop remember to use ampere's law or ampere maxwell's lawyer the first thing is you have to attach a surface um you can imagine dipping this loop in a soap solution and then a soap solution gets attached a film gets attached so you can have that as a flat surface attached and if i do that now notice the current that's punching through it that becomes the current enclosed and the current punching through it is just i so our current enclosed is just i plus now what is this part the displacement current over here to calculate the displacement current i have to figure out what is the flux through this particular loop just let's quickly recall what is the electric flux how do we calculate electric flux remember electric flux is the product of the electric field at any point multiplied by the perpendicular component of the area now where would be the electric field over here there is an electric field inside the wire okay but in our case if you consider this to be a very good conductor then hardly any resistance so hardly any potential difference therefore hardly any electric field so in our example the electric field would be very tiny and even the area would be just the thickness of the wire which is going to be very tiny so the flux in this case is going to be almost negligibly almost zero but even if the electric field was high enough and that's possible if you have you know incredible amount of currents and it's changing very quickly it's possible even if that was very high notice our displacement current has an epsilon not in it and do you remember what's the value of epsilon naught just to again a lot of things to recall over here 1 over 4 pi epsilon naught you might remember is 9 times 10 to the power 9. so the epsilon naught value would be 1 by 4 pi times 9 times 10 power 9. so you can imagine epsilon naught will be a very tiny number so if you had to put the values over here then you would get numbers which is like 10 to the power minus 9 minus 10 minus 12 and the conduct this conduction current this current would be of the order of one or two amperes and so you can completely neglect this term and so we can say this is almost zero and so what we see is that the displacement current inside the wire in almost all cases all practical cases would be zero and in fact that was the reason why ampere's law worked when we are dealing with just wires because the displacement current was almost negligible all right so how much do you get now well b would be mu naught times i divided by 2 pi r and again this is something that we have derived before just by using ampere's law now we are using ampere maxwell's law and we get the same answer which is nice so this is the magnetic field at p now let's see what's the magnetic field at q and if you remember from our previous video we saw we we said that experimentally the magnetic field here should be the same as over here now would be a good time to pause the video and sort of challenge yourself see if you can use the ampere maxwell's law to figure out what the magnetic field at point q is so give it a shot it's okay if you go wrong but give it a shot all right so just like before we'll choose a circular amperian loop and we'll walk in the same direction and since everything is same as over here for the left hand side we're going to get the same answer the magnetic field and dl will be in the same direction so we'll walk in this direction b and d will be in the same direction the circumference is exactly the same so left hand side which i'll write directly will be exactly the same so b times 2 pi r oops i use the wrong color so b times two phi r all right what will be the right hand side okay what about the enclosed current well again i have to attach a surface attach a flat surface to it and now what's the current punching through this surface there is no current punching through the surface it's between the plates of the capacitor there's vacuum no charge is flowing and so the conduction current is zero so you get zero here so now what's the displacement current there has to be some displacement current would it be negligibly small like before let's find out so to calculate displacement current the first thing is i have to calculate the flux so let me do that over here so what will be the electric flux through this surface well electric flux is electric field times the area so over here where is the electric field who's creating the electric field here the electric field is between the plates of the capacitor and because the capacitor plates are charged there will be some electric field here with this way some electric field but how much will that electric field be how do i know that we have studied this we've seen this long long time before electric field between two parallel plates if you remember the expression for that we derived it using gauss's law it happened to be sigma divided by epsilon naught and again if you're unfamiliar with this i recommend going back and watching our videos on causal's law where we applied that to calculate this expression so that's our electric field now comes the question what is the area and again if you hadn't tried this before now would be a great idea to pause and think about what would be the area over here well my first answer would be area of this loop so pi r square but let's be very careful area represents the area that's perpendicular to the electric field let me zoom in over here just to so we can clearly see we can see that there is no electric field over here or here the electric field only exists within the space of the capacitor which means when we are considering the area we should only consider this area where the electric field exists only this much of it i don't know if you can see that properly and so we should not consider the entire area of this loop we should only consider the area of actually the capacitor plates does that make sense that's the area because that's where the electric field is so if i zoom back out so over here the area would be pi capital r square not small r square does that make sense because over here there is no electric field all right so how much would this be well sigma is the charge on the capacitor sorry charge density of the capacitor charge per area and pi r square is the area of the capacitor plate so when you multiply what do you get this is charge per area times area you get the charge so this numerator is now representing the charge on the capacitor divided by epsilon naught now that we know what the flux is we let's substitute so if you calculate displacement current we get epsilon naught times d phi over dt what do you get if you differentiate this well epsilon naught is a constant so that's stays the same times dq over dt that gives you the current so you get multiplied by i and so notice our displacement current happens to be numerically equal to the current in the wire now don't get me wrong this i'm not saying that there is a current flowing over here what we are finding is that this value displacement current numerically ends up being the same value as this and therefore you can now see the value of b is exactly the same as before you get mu naught times i divided by 2 pi r and so indeed this expression gives us the right answer if we had just used ampere's law and if we had neglected this term we would have gotten zero the ampere says this would be zero because it's not enclosing any current but maxwell rightly said it's not just the current that matters changing flux also induces magnetic fields and so it's the displacement current that is producing the magnetic field over here