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### Course: Linear algebra > Unit 1

Lesson 5: Vector dot and cross products- Vector dot product and vector length
- Proving vector dot product properties
- Proof of the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality
- Vector triangle inequality
- Defining the angle between vectors
- Defining a plane in R3 with a point and normal vector
- Cross product introduction
- Proof: Relationship between cross product and sin of angle
- Dot and cross product comparison/intuition
- Vector triple product expansion (very optional)
- Normal vector from plane equation
- Point distance to plane
- Distance between planes

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# Normal vector from plane equation

Figuring out a normal vector to a plane from its equation. Created by Sal Khan.

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- This video explains how to get a normal vector, but a plane has infinite number of normal vectors right? I mean, each point on the plane has a normal vector. Is the normal vector calculated in this video special somehow? or why is the other normal vectors not explicitly written in the plane equation?(31 votes)
- You're correct in that each point will have a normal vector, however since we're dealing with a flat plane each of those normal vectors will be the same (they will all point in the same relative direction). Therefore all the points on the plane share a "unique" normal vector.

If instead we were dealing with a sphere, or some other non-flat surface, then the normal vector would be different at each point on the surface and we would have a similar situation to what you were describing.(84 votes)

- I still don't understand why A, B, and C are the normal vector coordinates..(25 votes)
- Here's how I like to think of it. I've got a line in R^2

Ax+By=C.

If I want to find a normal vector, I can find the slope of the line and then do the opposite reciprocal to find a normal vector.

By=-Ax+C

y=-A/B*x+C/B. The slope is -A/B. A normal vector will have slope B/A. An easy way to construct this is to make the y comp = B and the x comp = A. Thus, the vector normal the line Ax+By=C is [A, B]. The jump to 3D is now more intuitive.(31 votes)

- Thanks for the great tutorials Sal.

I'm learning, however I'm wondering if you have the y and z axes correct?

In this video Normal vector from plane equation1:00-1:15, you label the x-axis as right (correct), y-axis as front (should be up) and z-axis as up (should be front).

I tried turning my head so x-axis points right (correct) and y-axis points up (correct), however then the z-axis points to the back, meaning the positive z you wrote, should be negative z.

Anyway, I'm learning so I might be wrong, however I would like to be clear on this as others I have spoken to seem unsure.(8 votes)- Yes, the coordinate system Sal made is left-handed, when usually a right-handed system is used.(19 votes)

- How come this section doesn't have any quizzes?(16 votes)
- Maybe since the topics are quite diverse and quizzes already exist in the other sections

the team won't mention them here - maybe the IIT JEE questions are a bit too difficult.(3 votes)

- Why is the normal vector equation n.(ai + bj +ck) ?(5 votes)
- I, j and k are the unit vectors towards the three different axes. All vectors in our three dimensional space can be expressed using them.

The advantage of i, j and k come from the fact that they are all perpendicular to each other. This makes calculating them a lot of easier.

Hope I helped.(10 votes)

- I don't see how P-P1 can "lie along the plane". You've subtracted two position vectors - surely this would just give a third position vector, ie define a point? I can see that the line from the origin to the position defined by this third position vector would be in a second plane parallel to the first plane, but the second plane must include the origin. Or am I misunderstanding something?(6 votes)
- Sal says P-P1 lies "on" the plane because it does when started from any
*point*on the plane (as Sal did in his example). Drawing it between the endpoints of P and P1 helps illustrate why P-P1 is part of defining the plane, which is why he did so in his earlier video and again now.

However, you are correct that vectors can be moved anywhere, so implying one is always on a specific plane is misleading. A more correct statement would be that P-P1 lies on a plane parallel or equal to the one Sal is using. But since these planes all have the same normal vectors, that distinction isn't necessary for what Sal's trying to explain now.(8 votes)

- at5:31he has expanded the dot product of (P-P1) DOT N

P-P1 is (X-Xp)i + (Y-Yp)j + (Z-Zp)k

N is Ai + Bj + Ck

But he ignores the i, j, and k during his expansion:

Instead of

AiX- AiXp + BjY - BjYp + CkZ - CkZp = 0

He says

AX - AXp + BY - BYp + Cz - CZp = 0

Why does he lose out the unit vectors in the dot product expansion?(7 votes)- Because the dot product takes as input two vectors, but returns a scalar number as result, remember that one way to look at the dot product is:
`A ∙ B = |A| |B| cos(θ)`

where`θ`

is the angle between vectors`A`

and`B`

.(4 votes)

- Hi Sal. Thanks for your great videos.

Question: (0.30) why do we describe the vector n = ai + bj + ck and not n = (ai, bj, ck)?

If i,j,k are representing the three axis of a plane, why are we adding them together instead of defining them as a tuple?(4 votes)- a1i + a2j + a3k

= a1(1, 0, 0) + a2(0, 1, 0) + a3(0, 0, 1)

= (a1, 0, 0) + (0, a2, 0) + (0, 0, a3)

= (a1, a2, a3).(4 votes)

- Is D the distance of the plane from the origin ?(3 votes)
- Kinda. Let's work in 2D. let's say you have x + y = 2. So here A and B = 1 This is just another way of saying y = 2 - x. In this case D = 2, and it moves the line up 2 units. So yes, where x = 0 the line is 2 above the origin, but elsewhere along the line it won't be 2 away. the 2 just tells you how far upward you have to move the line y = -x

More generally let's say Ax + By = D, now we will solve for y. y = D/B - A/Bx. So now we have the line -A/Bx being moved along the y axis D/B units, so still, the D entry determines how far along the y axis the line is moved. Or at least it plays a big part. if D = 0 then the line would cross through the origin.

Similarly in 3d D tells you how far along the z axis you have to move the plane, or at least it plays a major part. So starting with Ax + By + Cz = D and solving for z we get (D - Ax - By)/C = z And, if you plug in (0,0) for x and y, you will be exactly D/C away from the origin along the z axis. And if D was 0 you would have the plane (-Ax - By)/C = 0 which goes through the origin.

It's worth noting you can solve for any of the three variables and still get the answer. Let's use 3x + 5y = 7 and hopefully you'll be able to see how it follows in 3d. So, let's solve that for x and y, in both cases you get:

(7 - 5y)/3 = x

(7 - 3x)/5 = y

Try graphing both and you should see you get the same graph. use a site like desmos or geobra if you need. But in the y= one the 7/3 term tells you how far you go up the y axis, while in the x= equation the 7/5 tells how far you move the line along the x axis.

I really hope this helpped, the main takeaway is that the D term plays a major part in telling how far a line/ plane is moved away from the origin.(5 votes)

- So, basically, a normal vector to the plane Ax+By+Cz=D is [A, B, C]?

If this is true, one could find the equation of a plane by knowing the normal vector and 1 point in a very straight forward way. Ax+By+Cz is known from the normal vector and D can be found by putting the coordinates of the point in. Very useful!

For example, let's say [3, 1, -1] is the normal vector and (2, 1, 4) is a point on the plane. I instantly know that Ax+By+Cz=3x+y-z. D is found using the point. D=3x+y-z=3*2+1-4=3. This result in the plane 3x+y-z=3.

Is this a proper way of solving an exercise?(3 votes)- Yes, this is accurate. If you compare the steps you are doing there to what is done in the video, you will notice that they are completely equivalent.

From the video, the equation of a plane given the normal vector**n**= [A,B,C] and a point**p1**is**n**.**p**=**n**.**p1**, where**p**is the position vector [x,y,z]. By the dot product,**n**.**p**= Ax+By+Cz, which is the result you have observed for the left hand side. The right hand side replaces the generic vector**p**with a specific vector**p1**, so you would simply replace x, y and z with the numbers in**p1**. This is exactly the same as what you have observed.(2 votes)

## Video transcript

What I want to do in
this video is make sure that we're good at
picking out what the normal vector
to a plane is, if we are given the
equation for a plane. So to understand that, let's
just start off with some plane here. Let's just start off--
so this is a plane, I'm drawing part
of it, obviously it keeps going in every direction. So let's say that is our plane. And let's say that this is a
normal vector to the plane. So that is our normal
vector to the plane. It's given by ai
plus bj plus ck. So that is our normal
vector to the plane. So it's perpendicular. It's perpendicular
to every other vector that's on the plane. And let's say we have
some point on the plane. We have some point. It's the point x sub p. I'll say p for plane. So it's a point on the plane. Xp yp zp. If we pick the origin. So let's say that
our axes are here. So let me draw our
coordinate axes. So let's say our coordinate
axes look like that. This is our z-axis. This is, let's say
that's a y-axis. And let's say that
this is our x-axis. Let's say this is our
x-axis coming out like this. This is our x-axis. You can specify this
is a position vector. There is a position vector. Let me draw it like this. Then it would be behind the
plane, right over there. You have a position vector. That position vector would
be xpi plus ypj plus zpk. It specifies this
coordinate, right here, that sits on the plane. Let me just call that something. Let me call that
position vector, I don't know-- let
me call that p1. So this is a point on the plane. So it's p-- it is p1
and it is equal to this. Now, we could take another
point on the plane. This is a particular
point of the plane. Let's say we just say, any
other point on the plane, xyz. But we're saying that
xyz sits on the plane. So let's say we take this
point right over here, xyz. That clearly, same logic, can
be specified by another position vector. We could have a position
vector that looks like this. And dotted line. It's going under the
plane right over here. And this position
vector, I don't know, let me just call it p, instead
of that particular, that P1. This would just be
xi plus yj plus zk. Now, the whole reason
why I did this set up is because, given some
particular point that I know is on the plane, and any other
xyz that is on the plane, I can find-- I can construct--
a vector that is definitely on the plane. And we've done this
before, when we tried to figure out what the
equations of a plane are. A vector that's
definitely on the plane is going to be the difference
of these two vectors. And I'll do that in blue. So if you take the yellow
vector, minus the green vector. We take this position,
you'll get the vector that if you view
it that way, that connects this point
in that point. Although you can
shift the vector. But you'll get a vector that
definitely lies along the plane So if you start
one of these points it will definitely
lie along the plane. So the vector will
look like this. And it would be lying
along our plane. So this vector lies
along our plan. And that vector is p minus p1. This is the vector p minus p1. It's this position vector minus
that position vector, gives you this one. Or another way to view
it is this green position vector plus this blue vector
that sits on the plane will clearly equal this
yellow vector, right? Heads to tails. It clearly equals it. And the whole reason
why did that is we can now take the dot product,
between this blue thing and this magenta thing. And we've done it before. And they have to be equal to 0,
because this lies on the plane. This is perpendicular
to everything that sits on the
plane and it equals 0. And so we will get the
equation for the plane. But before I do
that, let me make sure we know what the components
of this blue vector are. So p minus p1, that's
the blue vector. You're just going to subtract
each of the components. So it's going to be x minus xp. It's going to be x minus
xpi plus y minus ypj plus z minus zpk. And we just said,
this is in the plane. And this is, this
right, the normal vector is normal to the plane. You take their dot product--
it's going to be equal to zero. So n dot this vector is
going to be equal to 0. But it's also equal to this
a times this expression. I'll do it right over here. So these-- find some good color. So a times that, which is ax
minus axp plus b times that. So that is plus by minus byp. And then-- let me make
sure I have enough colors-- and then it's going to
be plus that times that. So that's plus cz minus czp. And all of this is equal to 0. Now what I'm going to do is,
I'm going to rewrite this. So we have all of these
terms I'm looking for, right? Color. We have all of the x terms-- ax. Remember, this is any
x that's on the plane, will satisfy this. So ax, by and cz. Let me leave that on
the right hand side. So we have ax plus by
plus cz is equal to-- and what I want
to do is I'm going to subtract each of
these from both sides. Another way is, I'm going
to move them all over. Let me do it-- let me
not do too many things. I'm going to move them
over to the left hand side. So I'm going to add
positive axp to both sides. That's equivalent of
subtracting negative axp. So this is going
to be positive axp. And then we're going to have
positive byp plus-- I'll do that same green-- plus byp,
and then finally plus czp. Plus czp is going
to be equal to that. Now, the whole reason why
did this-- and I've done this in previous videos, where we're
trying to find the formula, or trying to find the
equation of a plane, is now we say, hey, if
you have a normal vector, and if you're given a point
on the plane-- where it's in this case is
xp yp zp-- we now have a very quick way of
figuring out the equation. But I want to go the other way. I want you to be
able to, if I were to give you a equation for
plane, where I were to say, ax plus by plus cz, is equal to d. So this is the general
equation for a plane. If I were to give
you this, I want to be able to figure out the
normal vector very quickly. So how could you do that? Well, this ax plus by
plus cz is completely analogous to this part
right up over here. Let me rewrite all this over
here, so it becomes clear. This part is ax
plus by plus cz is equal to all of this stuff
on the left hand side. So let me copy and paste it. So I just essentially
flipped this expression. But now you see this, all of
this, this a has to be this a. This b has to be this b. This c has to be this thing. And then the d is all of this. And this is just
going to be a number. This is just going to
be a number, assuming you knew what the
normal vector is, what your a's, b's
and c's are, and you know a particular value. So this is what d is. So this is how you could get
the equation for a plane. Now if I were to give
you equation or plane, what is the normal vector? Well, we just saw it. The normal vector, this a
corresponds to that a, this b corresponds to that b, that
c corresponds to that c. The normal vector to
this plane we started off with, it has the
component a, b, and c. So if you're given
equation for plane here, the normal vector to this
plane right over here, is going to be ai
plus bj plus ck. So it's a very easy thing to do. If I were to give you
the equation of a plane-- let me give you a
particular example. If I were to tell you that
I have some plane in three dimensions-- let's say it's
negative 3, although it'll work for more dimensions. Let's say I have negative 3
x plus the square root of 2 y-- let me put it this
way-- minus, or let's say, plus 7 z is equal to pi. So you have this crazy--
I mean it's not crazy. It's just a plane
in three dimensions. And I say what is a normal
vector to this plane? You literally can just pick
out these coefficients, and you say, a normal
vector to this plane is negative 3i plus
the square root of 2 plus 2 square root
of 2 j plus 7 k. And you could ignore
the d part there. And the reason why
you can ignore that is that will just
shift the plane, but it won't fundamentally
change how the plane is tilted. So a this normal vector, will
also be normal if this was e, or if this was 100, it would be
normal to all of those planes, because all those
planes are just shifted, but they all have
the same inclination. So they would all kind of
point the same direction. And so the normal vectors would
point in the same direction. So hopefully you found
that vaguely useful. We'll now build on this
to find the distance between any point in three
dimensions, and some plane. The shortest distance that
we can get to that plane.