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## 8th grade

### Course: 8th grade > Unit 1

Lesson 4: Approximating irrational numbers- Approximating square roots
- Approximating square roots walk through
- Approximating square roots
- Comparing irrational numbers with radicals
- Comparing irrational numbers
- Approximating square roots to hundredths
- Comparing values with calculator
- Comparing irrational numbers with a calculator

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# Approximating square roots

Learn how to find the approximate values of square roots. The examples used in this video are √32, √55, and √123. The technique used is to compare the squares of whole numbers to the number we're taking the square root of.

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- what to do to get an exact answer for square root of 55(13 votes)
- The thing is, you can't, since it's irrational. What you
**can**do is simplify the square root, say the √55 is the answer, or just enter it in a scientific calculator for the most precise approximate.(25 votes)

- Is there an advanced way to do it when you get older since the approximation is really just an irrational number that goes on, or do we stick with approximating like this throughout our entire lives?(10 votes)
- I'm not sure that there's a more advanced way, but it's definitely good to know how to approximate like he describes in the video - while it's convenient to use a calculator, it's even better to know that the value the calculator gives you is close to what you have already approximated.

If you go on to upper level math, physics, engineering, etc., it is**so helpful**if you already have strong skills in estimating / approximating. Alot of people will be able to roughly estimate the answer in their heads - even for complicated problems - before they sit down to work it out on paper. It's really amazing.

As far as square roots are concerned, you can definitely memorize a few (or a lot), but you won't be able to memorize them all. So the ability to approximate the value of a square root - to be able to look at it, and have a rough idea of the value - is really handy.(20 votes)

- uhm can someone tell me how to find the square root of an imperfect square..cos I have this thing for homework and idk what's the square root of 1825..like is there a formula for finding the square root?(10 votes)
- unless you want to approximate, just leave it with the imperfect part inside the root, like such

root(1825) is root(5*5*73) so it simplifies to 5 √(73), or five times the square root of 73. just leave the 73 inside the root sign, and leave the five outside.(7 votes)

- Wait! It could be between a decimal right, because I got a answer that is between a decimal in Khan Academy's Approximating square roots practice.(12 votes)
- Why does Sal sound so much more friendlier in this video...?(10 votes)
- He's almost always friendly(4 votes)

- How do you know what 32 is between?(6 votes)
- The closest bigger number that has a perfect square, and the closest smaller number that has a perfect square.(15 votes)

- What's the approximate square root of pi?(5 votes)
- The square root of pi, to two decimal places, is approximately 1.77.

Have a blessed, wonderful day!(6 votes)

- I've been able to answer a few questions here but I also have a question :P This lesson is for finding approximate, and with smaller numbers. With my book it asks for something as big as the square root of 67392.

I've done some googling, but I struggle to understand the steps to doing the long division by seperating the number into pairs of two, then finding the biggest square that can fit, then subtracting that for it etc.

Is there a better way, or could someone please explain so that it can make sense? Thanks y'all :)

- Apex(5 votes)- So for your example of 67392, find the prime factorization then take the square root. It would be sqrt(2^6 * 3^4 * 13) which can be simplified to 2^3 * 3^2 * sqrt(13) = 72sqrt(13). Then approximate sqrt(13) and multiply. Hope this makes sense!(3 votes)

- At3:44he says 123 is 123 when you square it, what does he mean?(4 votes)
- What Sal did there is he squared a square root/that √ symbol you saw.

A square root is essentially trying to figure out what number multiplies/*squares*in order to get the number we're square rooting. If that's true, then by the same logic if we were to square a square root we would just end up with the number underneath that symbol.

(If this is confusing, think of the entire square root as like a variable of sorts representing its answer (like √25=5) and then imagine what would happen if we were to square that answer (which is already the*square root*), ending up whith whatever is under the radical (√25=5, 5^2=**25**). In other words, the symbol represents that we're trying to find*what times itself*= that number, but by squaring the whole thing we're just undoing whatever we decided to do.)(6 votes)

- how do i calculate square roots and cube roots without calculators?(5 votes)
- You really can't. I found that just trial and error is the best way if you don't have access to a calculator. Cheers!(5 votes)

## Video transcript

- [Voiceover] What I want
to do in this video is get a little bit of experience,
see a few examples of trying to roughly
estimate the square root of non-perfect squares. So let's say that I had, if I wanted to estimate
the square root of 32. And in particular, I'm just curious, between what two integers
will this square root lie? Well one way to think about
it is 32 is in between what perfect squares? We see 32 is, actually let me make sure I have some
space for future examples. So 32, what's the perfect square below 32? So the greatest perfect
square below 32 is 25. 32 is greater than 25. That's five squared. So maybe I should write it this way. So five squared is less than 32 and then 32, what's the next
perfect square after 32? Well 32 is less than 36. So we could say 32 is
less than six squared. So if you were to take the square root of all of these sides right over here, we could say that instead of here we have all of the values squared, but instead, if we took the square root, we could say five is going to be less than the square root of 32, which is less than, which is less than six. Notice, to go from here to here, to go from here to here, and here to here, all we did is we squared things, we raised everything to the second power. But the inequality should still hold. So the square root of 32 should be between five and six. It's going to be five point something. Let's do another example. Let's say we wanted to estimate, we want to say between what two integers is the square root of 55? Well we can do the same idea. Let's square it. So if we square the square root of 55, we're just gonna get to 55. We're just going to get, let me do that in the same color, 55. So okay, 55 is between
which two perfect squares? So the perfect square that is below 55, or I could say the greatest perfect square that is less than 55. Let's see, six squared is
36 and seven squared is 49, eight squared is 64. So it would be 49. I could write that as seven squared. Let me write that, that is the
same thing as seven squared. And what's the next
perfect square above it? Well we just figured it out. Seven squared is 49, eight
squared is larger than 55, it's 64. So this is going to be less than 64, which is eight squared. And of course 55, just to
make it clear what's going on. 55 is the square root of 55 squared. That's kind of by
definition, it's going to be the square root of 55 squared. And so the square root of 55
is going to be between what? It's going to be between seven and eight. So seven is less than
the square root of 55, which is less than eight. So once again, this is just an interesting way to think about, what would you, if someone
said the square root of 55 and at first you're like, "Oh,
uh, I don't know what that is. "I don't have a calculator,"
et cetera et cetera. You're like, "Oh wait, wait,
that's going to be between "49 and 64, so it's going to
be seven point something." It's going to be seven point something. And you can even get a rough
estimate of seven point what based on how far away
it is from 49 and 64. You can begin to approximate things. Let's do one more example. Let's say we wanted to figure out where does the square root of 123 lie? And like always, I encourage
you to pause the video and try to think about it yourself. Between what two integers does this lie? Well, if we were to
square it, you get to 123. And what's the perfect square that is the greatest perfect square less than 123? Let's see, 10 squared is 100. 11 squared is 121. 12 squared is 144. So 11 squared. So 123, so we could write 121 is less than 123, which is less than 144, that's 12 squared. So if we take the square
roots we could write that 11 is less than
the square root of 123, which is less than 144. So once again, what's the square root of 123? It's going to be 11 point something. And in fact, it's going to be closer to 11 than it's going to be to 12. 123 is a lot closer to
121 than it is to 144. So it might be, I don't know,
11.1, something like that. I don't know if that's exactly
right, we would have to check that on the calculator. But hopefully this gives you, oops I, that actually will be less than 144. But if we want to think about
what consecutive integers is that be between, it's going
to be a 12 right over there. Almost made a... Well anyway, you get the idea. Hopefully you enjoyed that.