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Harp Player, Early Cycladic period
Male harp player from Keros, c. 2600--2300 B.C.E., Early Cycladic period, marble, 22.5 cm high (National Archaeological Museum, Athens)
Speakers: Dr. Beth Harris and Dr. Steven Zucker
. Created by Steven Zucker and Beth Harris.Want to join the conversation?
- So very interesting!
All the female figures seem to have their arms folded across their chests. For me this indicates uncertainty and exposedness. Does anybody know if there are theories about this body language of the statues?(9 votes)- I doubt that this is the reason and more likely a sign of fertility. I think this because thousands of years ago people weren't shamed for their body like today.(2 votes)
- Is it still a problem that there are so many forgeries around? I'd think that it'd be easy to distinguish the real ones from forgeries through C-14 dating. They should be old enough for that, right?(3 votes)
- Also in terms of those kinds of techniques for dating artifacts, you have to realise, if you try and date one of these sculptures, you're only going to get the age of the marble itself. You can't use it to tell when x amount of stone was chipped away y amount of years ago. There isn't likely to be enough pigment left over on the statues to test that either, or rather, destroying the pigment for a test to get an answer of dubious value wouldn't be high on the list of conservators priorities.(4 votes)
- At, I thought I saw the outline of eyes on the face. Did anyone else notice this? Is that just a tiny bit of paint left, or were the eyes lightly carved onto it? 1:59(1 vote)
- Yes, those are the traces of eyes that were once painted onto the figures. Those can be called "ghosts of paint" -- and are somewhat similar to tan lines when we wear watches, sock, or shirts outside in the summer! The paint originally protected the surface so that it eroded at a different rate than the other parts. When the paint eventually wore away, the surface underneath was a bit smoother and even slightly raised. The website of the Museum of Cycladic Art in Athens has more information (http://www.cycladic.gr/frontoffice/portal.asp?cpage=resource&cresrc=138&cnode=40&clang=1).(8 votes)
- How big were these figures and were all of them made of marble? Also, are figures like this found in other parts of the world as well?(3 votes)
- These figures are 22.5 cm high but I do not know if there are other figures like these in different places.(2 votes)
- what are the consequences for looting? how many years of prison do criminals have, etc.(2 votes)
- From the author:That depends on many variables. What nations are involved, when the looting took place, the perceived value of the item that was taken, the damage done to the site, etc. etc.(2 votes)
- Were the famous modern artists mentioned actual participants in the illegal artifact trade or was that do to rich collectors only? If so ,could their estates be subjected to criminal fines?(2 votes)
- There is no evidence to lead to the conclusion that the famous artists who were mentioned in the video atas admiring these sculptures (Brancusi, Modigliani, and Picasso) participated in the illegal artifact trade. Since criminal fines are tied to a criminal conviction by a court (this site explains the different types of criminal fines 1:48http://criminal.lawyers.com/criminal-law-basics/what-are-criminal-fines.html ) it would be highly unlikely that their estates would be subjected to criminal fines due to this matter.(1 vote)
- Is there anything about Minoan Art?(1 vote)
- Selling these on the Black Market is totally illegal, right?(1 vote)
- Yes, they belong to the people who made them many years ago. Which now have passed so they belong in museums.(1 vote)
- since we have ancient music instrument is there is a difference between the sound of harp and silver lyre ?(1 vote)
- I understand that the majority of these figures can't be dated properly due to the reasons mentioned atand that some may even be forged. My question is if there have been found 'harp players' from other epochs or societies? And how are they interpreted? 1:00(1 vote)
Video transcript
(jazz piano) Voiceover: We're in the
National Archaeological Museum in Athens, and we're looking at a small sculpture of a
man seated on a chair, playing a harp. But what makes this a remarkable object is that it's probably
about 5,000 years old. Voiceover: There are
only about 10 of these that have been discovered in the Cycladic Islands
in the South Aegean. Voiceover: Mostly what we've found are tall, thin, highly
abstracted female figures, and these have mostly
been found in graves. Voiceover: They were
produced over hundreds and hundreds of years, of various sizes. Voiceover: We don't know a
lot about these sculptures, and the reason for that is that perhaps only 10% of these figures
have been recovered by modern archaeologists,
in controlled conditions. The vast majority of these
sculptures, male and female, have come to light on the art market. That is, somebody has
gone in and unearthed them in order to sell them. The result is we have no
scientific archaeological records of where they were found, at
what level they were found, so the chronology, etc.,
is almost impossible. Voiceover: Right. We don't
know what they were found with. We don't know anything about
the context of the find, and in fact we'll never know, because that knowledge
is just permanently lost. So not only do we have a problem with the archaeological record, but we also have a problem because these were so popular in
the early 20th century. They were discovered by modern artists, and therefore we think many of them may have been created as forgeries. Voiceover: So the art market, we think, is awash with authentic
objects that have been unearthed illegally, as well as forgeries, that is, objects that have been produced in the modern world, in order to look as if they were ancient. When we look at these
objects, we can see why the modern artists fell
in love with these. There's a kind of simplicity. We know that Brancusi respsonded to these. We know that Modigliani
responded to these. We know that Picasso loved these objects. Voiceover: They're highly abstract, and they look that way to us in a way that is not really true to what they originally looked like. We know that areas of the
sculptures were painted with very bright colors, and so this pristine white
marble abstract form, that we so appreciate in the modern era, is not what the people
of Crete were producing. Voiceover: And look at the differences between the male and female figures. The male figures are rounded. The furniture is rounded. It's tubular. The figure's head is back,
as if perhaps he's singing, but of course we don't know. There is a little
projection from that harp, which we think may be the head of a bird, perhaps a swan. Again, we really don't know. Whereas, the female
figures are more frontal, more plainer, and they
are incised in a way that accentuates the
geometry of their bodies. Voiceover: Not only are the
female figures abstract, but they're also very compact. The limbs are folded in. There's no space between
the arms and the torso. There's no space between the legs. The knees are just slightly bent. There's no real sense of movement. Voiceover: It is a closed composition that emphasizes the overall
contour of the figures. Look at the shield-like shape of the face and the way that the nose projects. They're beautiful without eyes, but there were painted eyes. There was a painted mouth. We initially see these as flat, but when we spend a
moment looking at them, we see that the head is at one angle, the neck at another. Then we have the more
complicated surface of the torso. Then it seems as if the
thighs project outward, and the shins inward
again, and then of course, we have the reverse with
the feet, and so there is this almost slight accordion-like
folding of the body. Voiceover: With later Greek sculptures we might think about Kouroi
figures from the 7th century, much later and on the Greek mainland, there we see male figures nude
and female figures clothed. And here, these female
figures are all nude. That has led some art
historians and archaeologists to speculate that maybe
these are somehow related to neolithic fertility goddesses. Voiceover: But the key
word here is speculate, because we have no written records. All we have is the object itself. They have been stripped of all of their original cultural
meaning, and in some ways that is also a very modernist idea, that we can appreciate the aesthetics, the object itself, unencumbered by what their real meaning was. (jazz piano)