Introduction to present value
The video explains the concept of present value in finance. Present value helps compare money received today to money received in the future. To find present value, we discount future money using a discount rate (like 5%). This helps decide which option is better: getting money now or later. Created by Sal Khan.
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- Can someone help me to understand how can sal suddenly came up with 1.05? I know 5% is 0.05 but where is 1 number came from? It tried to understand all of this but stuck just because i cannot figure it out where 1 come from.. Thanks for the help!(8 votes)
- What Dhananjay said. It's like if you add the tip in a restaurant, the tip amount is, say 20%, but what happens to the bill when tip is added in is that the bill is now 120% of what it was. In Sal's example, the Present Value is the bill, and a tip gets added on so you multiply by a number greater than one (1+ 20%) to get the future value.(13 votes)
- How did you get that interest rate of 5%? What about the inflation value?(8 votes)
- Here, we do not need to consider the inflation value, since we are comparing the future value of both sum.
It would be interesting to have the inflation values, but they would be useless.(2 votes)
- what is the meaning of "discount rate"? is that different from the meaning of yield?(6 votes)
- The discount rate is the rate at which you could otherwise invest your money if you took the $100 today instead of $110 in a year. So if you can only get 5% yield on your money investing in a risk free asset such as gov't bonds, you would need to invest $104.76 now to get $110 in a year, which means it is a better deal to take the $110 in a year, rather than the $100 now. If they offered even a penny more than $104.76 to you today, you should take it because investing at 5% yield will give you slightly more than $110 in a year.(13 votes)
- What is the risk of lending money to a risky bank?(3 votes)
- The risk is not getting it back!(6 votes)
- I am assuming that he chose the 5% interest rate at random, my question is, what is a reasonable interest rate to expect from a bank in the present day (2012)?(3 votes)
- I think I understand your question as - 'Why is it that the rate of interest is always lower when we invest compared to when we borrow?".
My take is that obviously, the other party (Bank in general) needs to make a profit by giving comparatively lower interests to investors, and collecting comparatively higher interest from borrowers, which helps them make the profit.
But, reading through the comments makes me believe there are higher interest returns on investments as well, but the risk involved gets higher as the interest rate increases.(2 votes)
- I just don't grapple this PV concept. 104.76 is not the present value in my mind because it will only become that after one year.(2 votes)
- After the year, the value of the money will be $110. Think of 104.76 as the amount you would have to invest at 5% interest to get to $110 a year from now.(4 votes)
- In the case of comparing a present value with future value, should Present Value always be determined excluding other variables or is it important to take into account inflation, etc. when calculating present value. If so, what other factors besides inflation should be considered?(2 votes)
- To calculate present value you need a forecast of the future cash flows, and you need to choose an appropriate interest rate. A lot of things can go into both of those.(3 votes)
- Are we also assuming that the interest rate will be fixed too? If the interest rate fluctuates this will change the present value won't it?(2 votes)
- yes, it will. We do not need to assume a fixed rate, although it often makes sense to do that, since the various risk free rates are fixed over specific terms. In other words, if you have a 30 year project, you can evaluate it today against the 30 year fixed treasury rate. But you don't have to. You could use the 10 yr rate for the first 10 yrs of cash flows and then a different rate for the last 20. Probably won't make much difference. PV seems really precise and scientific, and on paper it is, but in practice there's a lot of guesswork and estimation involved. There are large uncertainties in both the future cash flows and the future discount rate.(3 votes)
- I don't understand where the 5% rate comes from. Is there anyone could explain it for me?(1 vote)
- The particular value of 5% was just chosen as an example. It could have been any number. Historically, "safe" returns of 5% were fairly typical (or a bit optimistic), so Sal used it in his calculations.(4 votes)
- Is the discount rate, for the most part, the standard bank interest rate?(2 votes)
- No, it's the rate that you would expect to get on an equally risky alternative investment.(2 votes)
We'll now learn about what is arguably the most useful concept in finance, and that's called the present value. And if you know the present value, then it's very easy to understand the net present value and the discounted cash flow and the internal rate of return. And we'll eventually learn all of those things. But the present value. What does that mean? Present value. So let's do a little exercise. I could pay you $100 today. So let's say today, I could pay you $100. Or, and it's up to you, in one year I will pay you-- I don't know-- let's say in a year I agree to pay you $110. And my question to you-- and this is a fundamental question of finance, everything will build upon this-- is which one would you prefer? And this is guaranteed. I guarantee you. I'm either going to pay you $100 today, and there's no risk, even if I get hit by a truck or whatever. This is going to happen. The U.S. government, if the earth exists, we will pay you $110 in one year. It is guaranteed. So there's no risk here. So it's just the notion of you're definitely going to get $100 today in your hand, or you're definitely going to get $110 one year from now. So how do you compare the two? And this is where present value comes in. What if there were a way to say, well what is $110, a guaranteed $110, in the future? What if there were a way to say, how much is that worth today? How much is that worth in today's terms? So let's do a little thought experiment. Let's say that you could put money in the bank. And these days banks are kind of risky. But let's say you could put it in the safest bank in the world. Let's say you , although someone would debate, you put it in government treasuries. Which are considered risk-free, because the U.S. government, the Treasury, can always indirectly print more money. We'll one day do a whole thing on the money supply. But at the end of the day, the U.S. government has the rights on the printing press, et cetera. It's more complicated than that. But for those purposes, we assume that with the U.S. Treasury, which essentially is you're lending money to the U.S. government, that it's risk-free. So let's say today I could give you $100 and that you could invest it at 5% risk-free. And then in a year from now, how much would that be worth, in a year? That would be worth $105 in one year. Actually let me write the $110 over here. So this was a good way of thinking about it. You're like, OK, instead of taking the money from Sal a year from now and getting $110, if I were to take $100 today and put it in something risk-free, in a year I would have $105. So assuming I don't have to spend the money today, this is a better situation to be in, right? If I take the money today, and risk-free invest it at 5%, I'm going to end up with $105 in a year. Instead, if you just tell me, Sal, just give me the money in a year-- give me $110-- you're going to end up with more money in a year, right? You're going to end up with $110. And that is actually the right way to think about it. And remember, and I keep saying it over and over again, everything I'm talking about, it's critical that we're talking about risk-free. Once you introduce risk, then we have to start introducing different interest rates and probabilities. And we'll get to that eventually. But I want to just give the purest example right now. So already you've made the decision. But we still don't know what the present value was. So to some degree when you took this $100 and you said well if I lend it to the government, or if I lend it to a risk-free bank at 5%, in a year they'll give me $105. This $105 is a way of saying what is the one-year value of $100 today? What is the one-year-out value of $100 today? So what if we wanted to go in the other direction? If we have a certain amount of money and we want to figure out today's value, what could we do? Well, to go from here to here, what did we do? We essentially took $100 and we multiplied by- what did we multiply by-- 1 plus 5%. So that's 1.05. So to go the other way, to say how much money, if I were to grow it by 5%, would end up being $110? We'll just divide by 1.05. And then we will get the present value. And the notation is PV. We'll get the present value of $110 a year from now. So the present value of $110, let's say in 2009. It's currently 2008. I don't know what year you're watching this video in. Hopefully people will be watching this in the next millennia. But the present value of $110 in 2009, assuming right now it's 2008, a year from now, is equal to $110 divided by 1.05. And let's take out this calculator, which is probably overkill for this problem. Let me clear everything. OK so I want to do 110 divided by 1.05 is equal to-- let's just round-- so it equals $104.76. So the present value of $110 a year from now, if we assume that we could invest money risk-free at 5%, if we were to get it today -- let me do it in a different color just to fight the monotony-- the present value is equal to $104.76. Another way to kind of just talk about this is to get the present value of $110 a year from now, we discounted the value by a discount rate. And the discount rate is this. Right here we grew the money by, you could say, our yield. A 5% yield or our interest. Here we're discounting the money, because we're going backwards in time. We're going from year-out to the present. And so this is our yield. To compound the amount of money we invest, we multiply the amount we invest times 1 plus the yield. Then to discount money in the future to the present, we divided by 1 plus the discount rate-- so this is a 5% discount rate-- to get its present value. So what does this tell us? This tells us if someone's willing to pay $110, assuming this 5%-- remember this is a critical assumption. This tells us that if I tell you I'm willing to pay you $110 a year from now, and you could get 5%-- so you could kind of say that 5% is your discount rate risk-free-- that you should be willing to take today's money, if today I'm willing to give you more than the present value. So if this comparison were-- let me clear all of this, let me just scroll down-- so let's say that today, 1 year. So we figured out that $110 a year from now, its present value is equal to-- so the present value of that $110-- is equal to $104.76. And that's because I used a 5% discount rate, and that's a key assumption. This is a dollar sign. I know it's hard to read. What this tells you is that, if your choice was between $110 a year from now and $100 today, you should take the $110 a year from now. Why is that? Because its present value is worth more than $100. However, if I were to offer you $110 a year from now or $105 today. This, the $105 today, would be the better choice. Because its present value , right, $105 today, you don't have to discount it . It's today. Its present value is itself. $105 today is worth more than the present value of $110, which is $104.76. Another way to think about it is, I could take this $105 to the bank-- let's assume I have a risk-free bank-- get 5% on it. And then I would have-- what would I end up with-- I'd end up with 105 times 1.05. Equal to $110.25. So a year from now, I'd be better off by $0.25. And I'd have the joy of being able to touch my money for a year, which is hard to quantify, so we leave out of the equation. Anyway, I'll see you in the next video.