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Course: Finance and capital markets > Unit 8
Lesson 1: Banking and money- Banking 1
- Banking 2: A bank's income statement
- Banking 3: Fractional reserve banking
- Banking 4: Multiplier effect and the money supply
- Banking 5: Introduction to bank notes
- Banking 6: Bank notes and checks
- Banking 7: Giving out loans without giving out gold
- Banking 8: Reserve ratios
- Banking 9: More on reserve ratios (bad sound)
- Banking 10: Introduction to leverage (bad sound)
- Banking 11: A reserve bank
- Banking 12: Treasuries (government debt)
- Banking 13: Open market operations
- Banking 14: Fed funds rate
- Banking 15: More on the Fed funds rate
- Banking 16: Why target rates vs. money supply
- Banking 17: What happened to the gold?
- Banking 18: Big picture discussion
- The discount rate
- Repurchase agreements (repo transactions)
- Federal Reserve balance sheet
- Fractional Reserve banking commentary 1
- FRB commentary 2: Deposit insurance
- FRB commentary 3: Big picture
- LIBOR
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Banking 16: Why target rates vs. money supply
The rationale for targeting interest rates instead of directly having a money supply target. Created by Sal Khan.
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- Why wouldn't the Fed lend directly to banks and set the interest rates in a more direct way rather than setting a target rate and letting banks lend each other? Is that an open market principle?(11 votes)
- They actually do that as well. There are basically two ways for a bank to borrow money: on the inter-bank marked where the banks lend eachother money over night, or borrowing from the FED. The FED will lend the banks the money for a certain interest which creats a ceiling for the interest rate on the inter-bank marked (why borrow from other banks, if you can borrow more cheaply from the FED). Also, the FED will pay the banks to deposit money if they have too much cash. This creats a bottom for the interest rate on the inter-bank money marked.
The basic idea of this is to make sure that the interest rate would suddenly drop or explode from one day to another.
So why these OMOs (open marked operations). Well, we have to keep in mind why the interest rate would increase in the first place. That would be due to a larger demand for money. Forcing the interest rate up doesn't actually do anything about the demand for money. Lets say we have 1 million dollars, the interest is 8% but the demand for money at an interest at 8% is 2 million dollars. What happeneds then? Well if we dont use OMOs the money supply wont increase and since the FED controls the interest rate, that wont change either. So basically the demand for money will be greater than the supply thus some people and/or companies will not be able to borrow the money they want!(16 votes)
- Why is there no mention of the NEW MONEY that was created by the high returning projects? It would seem that the return on these projects would also have an effect on the money supply and future borrowing.(5 votes)
- New money isn't created by the projects. The project developer may invest 100% and get 110% in return, however this money is from M1.(8 votes)
- At the moment the current American interest rate set by the FED is 0.25%, is this a good idea considering some of the investment projects are very shady and likely to fail? I'm not sure if this is the actual rate, I got this information from www.global-rates.com.(3 votes)
- It seems to me that heuristic123's question is valid in principle. Even though "No one finances capital projects at the Fed funds rate", is it not true that the rate at which one finances capital projects will be influenced by the FED funds rate? I.e., lower funds rate resulting in generally lower financing rates for capital projects (and vice-versa)?(3 votes)
- At, M2 is defined, but ... could someone give me more specifics? 1:10(2 votes)
- until we get to Sal's video covering the subject of M2, how about this from the FED:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/money_12845.htm(1 vote)
- at, Sal says they three borrowers get the money at 17.9% 6:12
Why?
It doesn't seem to be an average of the three numbers.
Is it just a nominal "typical" figure Sal picked ?
Certainly I remember when many loan rates WERE as high as 17.9%, but that was (excluding "poor" credit options) 10 years ago, or so. But now (2014) I would expect to pay a half of that, or perhaps even a third.
So is the 17.9% just a "typical" rate?
Or is there a more direct link between the numbers on the "blackboard" and the 17.9%?(2 votes) - I'm unclear on the benefits of a centrally controlled contracting / expanding money supply as opposed to a money supply without immediate control (gold).
It's also useless to look at the US after the 1970s and conclude fiat money is superior since we have no data against which to benchmark one economic system vs another; there are no experiments in economics. I think then the only way to deal with this is abstractly, rather than a concrete by concrete basis.
Can anyone recommend additional reading ?(1 vote) - Since the Fed works on meeting the target lending rate between banks, do banks have some degree of control on the system? In other words could banks pressure the Fed to expand or contract the money supply by changing their interest rate? (I realise there are unlawful and lawful ways of doing so - in this case let's focus on the lawful means)(1 vote)
- Firstly, the banks don't have to listen to the Fed. Banks can charge any interest rate they want, as long as the other party agrees. Secondly, the banks have almost complete control. They tell the Fed what to do. This is because the board of directors for each of the reserve banks are divided into three classes of three people each. Class A directors represent the member commercial banks in the District, and most are bankers, and both class A and class B directors are elected by member banks.
This was designed so that banks would have a large amount of control over the Fed. This is mainly a good thing, since it eliminates the problem of the Prisoner's Dilemma which greatly harms the financial system.(3 votes)
- Lets say that the US wants to increase the fed rates.To increase the rates,it must decrease the money supply. So it sells T-Bills to people to get the money off them. Now that people have got T-Bills which the government is obliged to pay.
Now lets say that the government wants to keep these increased rates to be stable for 10 years.Does that mean that fed won't buy those T-Bills off people for 10 years? Why would common people hold T-Bills for that long?
Or simply put,how can the government keep on increasing fed rates for a long time?(1 vote)- People get paid to hold the T-Bills. The more they get paid, the more people are willing to hold them.
No one has to hold a particular security for a particular length of time. If you don't want your T-Bill anymore, you can sell it.(2 votes)
- Why is it necessary that money be allocated to fund crappy projects ? Instead of wasting money on shady, unreliable investments banks could have saved - or reserved - that amount of money to increase their liquidity, couldn't them ?(1 vote)
- They don't think the projects are crappy when they invest in them. They think they will make money. They make mistakes. Sometimes very stupid ones.(2 votes)
- Does the money supply ever actually contract?(1 vote)
- When the Fed decides it wants contraction, it makes it happen by selling treasury securities for cash. Because the economy is usually growing, it's not usually necessary to actually make the money supply smaller. Just having it grow at a rate less than the economy is contractionary. But they have on occasion made some measures of money supply actually contract.(2 votes)
Video transcript
In the last couple of videos,
we've gone over the idea that the Federal Reserve manages the
money supply by setting a target interest rate. And there might have been the
obvious question circling in your brain-- why don't they just
manage the money supply by instead of setting a target
interest rate, why don't they set a target money supply? They could say we have a target
M0 of-- I don't know-- $900 billion and they just-- if
it's at $800 billion now, they just print that much-- $100
billion dollars more of base money or Federal Reserve
deposits or Federal Reserve notes and then the M0 will get
to $900 billion and then you'll have the multiplier
effect and more lending will take place and then you
will increase the M1. So similarly, they could
have a target M1. They could say we want the M1,
which is the M0 plus checking deposit accounts-- so
essentially, anything that can be used for money. So actual cash, reserve
deposits, or checking accounts can be used for money because
you can write checks against them. So they can say, we want that
target to be-- I don't know-- $2 trillion. They can say, we're
targeting the M2. M2 is the M1 plus savings
accounts and money market accounts. So they could say,
we're targeting that to be $8 trillion. And just so you know,
I actually looked up these numbers. As of at least '05, '06, these
numbers weren't that far off. The M0 was more like $800
billion, but just so you get an idea. These, are real numbers. The obvious question is,
why don't they do that? Why don't they just grow
the money supply? Maybe one thing they could do,
they could say, our goal is for M2 to always be--
50% of GDP, right? They could say, let's make
it always 50% of GDP. So as the economy grows, we just
have to make sure that if it falls below 50% of GDP, that
we just have to print a little bit more money, then
it'll have a multiplier effect and we'll just keep
measuring it. If it goes a little bit above,
we'll do some open market operations and sell our
treasuries and take reserves out of the banking system. So that's a completely
legitimate way of thinking about it-- and actually, there
are some people who do advocate it this way. And there is no clear answer to
why they're doing this, but I've thought about a little bit
and there's two reasons that I can think of why this
might make more sense-- although there's a part of me--
and maybe in a future video, I'll make an argument
for why actually doing something like managing the
money supply to 50% of GDP might actually make a little
bit more sense. But anyway. The first reason is kind of one
out of convenience-- that the short term interest rate
with which banks lend to each other is just easier to measure
than any of these money supply things. If I'm Ben Bernanke and I want
to know what banks are lending to each other at, I could just
sample the market at that moment in time. I could say, I'm a bank. What are you willing
to lend to me at? They'll say, 5.2%. They're like, oh, that's a
little bit above our target. We have to buy more
treasuries. So you can get a very real
time notion of where the market is minute by minute. You don't have to wait for some
surveys to get completed or anything like that. While if you were targeting
actual money supply you would have to tabulate these fairly
quickly if you wanted real time information and that would
just be more of a mess. To actually calculate the M2,
you'd have to survey the banks and maybe you could do it with
some IT systems, but you're not going to get that real time
information-- or at least it would be harder to. The other reason-- and this is
a little bit more abstract, but I think it'll make
sense to you. Let's say it's the
planting season. I've never been a farmer, but I
think the planting season is sometime in the spring. And let's say there's a couple
of farm projects where farmers need to borrow money
to buy seeds. One of them returns a-- the
farmer will proceed if he can get lending at 20% or lower
interest rates. So if someone's willing to lend
him money at 21% interest rate, he'll be like, no,
that's way too much. But if he can get money at
19%, he's like, OK, I'll borrow the money and I'll buy
the seeds because it will create so much value that I'll
easily be able to pay back that interest. Say there's another farmer
with an 18% project. So if he gets 18% or lower
interest rates, he'll proceed with his project. Let's say there's another farmer
with a-- let's say it's a 12%-- project. If he gets funding at 11%, he'll
move forward and he'll buy the seeds and he'll
plant them. Let's say there's a
couple of other projects in this universe. Let's say there's
a factory guy. He's got a really good idea, a
new technology he wants to invest in and he's going to
move forward building the factory if he can get-- I don't
know-- 19% funding. And let's say there's another
factory guy who would get 3% funding. So he's not too confident
about his project. He thinks this project only
makes sense to move forward if he can get 3% or
better funding. So when I say better,
less than 3%. My phone is ringing,
but I'll ignore it because I'm on a roll. And there's another guy who's
really marginal, really shady. He's got a really
shady project. He himself is not too
confident in it. He will only proceed with this
project if he essentially gets money for free. So this is the state of affairs
in in the spring or during the planting season. So all of these would be
potential consumers of money. And let's say that this
is the money supply. Let's say the money supply is
fixed at that moment in time. So let's say-- I'll draw the
money supply circles so there's three circles
of money, right? So essentially the money is
going to be lent to the people willing to pay the highest
interest rate. So in this case-- for the sake
of simplicity, we're assuming all these are kind of the same
amount of money, just not to make things too complicated. So in a capitalist system,
the three best projects would get the money. And so it'll be this one, this
one, and this one, right? These three guys will
get the money. And essentially they're going
to pay the highest interest rate that the worst among
them is willing to pay. So this money is going to go
to these three guys at essentially 17.9%, right? I'm making a lot of simplifying
assumptions, but I really just want you to get
the underlying idea. And these projects, these three
products are not going to get done. And you might say, well, it's
good that society didn't allocate money to this guy and
this guy because these were shady projects to begin with,
but it's kind of unfortunate. This was a 12% yield project
that if somehow the capital was there, we would've gotten a
12% return on society, which is-- in the big picture of
things, a really good project, but there just wasn't
enough capital at that moment in time. There wasn't enough money at
that moment in time to support this project. Fair enough. But let's say the money supply
stays constant-- or at least in the medium term over the
course of a year because that's what the Fed
is targeting. So as we get away from the
planting season, these projects disappear. They're no longer there because
the planting season isn't there anymore. And let's say this guy got done,
but let's say there's another project just
like it that's 19%. And all of a sudden, since the
planting season's done, none of the farmers want money
anymore, but if you're keeping the money supply constant,
now which projects are going to get done? Well, this good project here is
going to get done, but so are these two kind of
crappy projects. And they're going to be lent
at a much lower rate. The average rate that it gets
lent to is going to be 1% or 2% or something really low. So you have a situation here
where the money supply did not-- it wasn't elastic with
the demand and the negative side effect to society in this
situation is, when people needed money, we were passing
on good projects that really should have been done
because these were really safe projects. And then later, when the timing
is bad and we keep the money supply constant, bad
projects will get funded because there's just so much
money to go around and none of these people need to use it
that these really crappy projects that might even be
negative-- remember, these are what the investor thinks they're
going to get, but maybe there's a lot of risk
and these end up-- if the investor thinks they're going to
get a 1% return, maybe they made a mistake. Maybe they'll get a -5% return,
in which case we're going to be destroying wealth. So this is the problem where
over a medium period of time, if you hold the money supply
constant, you'll be passing up on good projects when there's
a lot of demand for them. And then you'll be investing in
bad projects when there's not much demand for projects. On the other hand, if you
had-- let's do the same scenario over again. I think I made that a little
messy Let's say you have a couple farmers again. Let me draw a line here. So you have that 20%, 18%, 12%,
and then you have the 19%, 3%, and 1%. Now, if you were managing the
money supply to an interest rate-- and remember, the
interest rate-- the federal funds rate, is the rate
that banks lend to each other, right? But as we saw, when you inject
reserves into the banking system, it lowers the rate that
reserves are lent to each other, but also increases the
lending capacity of banks. So it increases the
money supply. And so when you increase the
money supply overall the lending capacity, you're also
lowering the rate at which banks lend to projects, right? You're increasing the
amount of money. Maybe the projects haven't
changed that much. So more money chasing the same
number of projects-- the cost of lending is going
to go down, right? So let's say the Fed manages
the interest rate in such a way that the Fed target rate
was 5%, but let's say that turns into bank lending to
real projects at-- I don't know-- 8%. So in this case, we're not
fixing the money supply. We're just adjusting the money
supply in such a way that the interest rate is fixed. So now during the planting
season, which products are going to get funded? This one, this one, this
one, and this one. These guys are not going
to get funded. And then once the planting
season is over, we're still keeping the interest
rate the same. Maybe we'll contract the money
supply in order to keep interest rate-- and of course,
this isn't what they manage it to. They manage it to the inter-bank
lending, but it's all related. I just want to give you a sense
of why it makes more sense to manage to
an interest rate. So once the planting season
is over and some of these projects aren't really available
as projects-- these were all the planting projects--
in this situation when we had a constant money
supply, we would lend to these crappy projects, but now that
we keep the interest rates constant or relatively fixed,
still only the good project is going to get funded and we
don't have to worry about banks just because they're
chasing yield and they're so flush with cash that they're
chasing bad projects. So that's the underlying
rationale, at least from my point of view, why it makes
sense to manage to an interest rate as opposed to
a money supply. It allows the money supply to
expand and contract naturally in real time according to
market demands for cash. And by setting the interest
rates, you're essentially setting the threshold over which
you're willing to let projects only that meet that
threshold get funded-- and not products below it that might
somehow waste money. Anyway, we'll discuss this a lot
more in a lot of different videos and hit it from different
angles, but I just wanted to answer those
questions, just so you know this wasn't some convoluted
crazy thing that they're doing, although it is a
little bit convoluted. It's just not that crazy. Anyway, see you in
the next video.