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Lesson 3: Credit basicsFICO scores and credit bureaus
A credit score is one of the most important numbers when it comes to financial decisions like buying a house and applying for credit cards. Find out what goes into making up your score. Created by Sal Khan.
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- Sal says that the banks tell these credit bureaus about my payment history etc. But do they get the consent from the customers before sharing this information? Shouldn't I, the customer, be slightly wary of sharing such sensitive information with these credit bureaus?(8 votes)
- I assume it is in the contract that you sign with your bank. I am sure you will find a section that says that they are entitled to share your information with a 3rd party for whatever reason.(9 votes)
- Why is today's range between 300 and 850? and why not, say 0 and 550?(9 votes)
- i think they did that because so they can show you how bad it is. so instead of your credit score is zero they would say your credit score is 245 below bad(4 votes)
- I have no credit score or history. I just started paying for car insurance and they ran a credit check on me before giving me my rate. Does this mean that one of the credit companies is now collecting payment data about me (for future FICO calculations)?(7 votes)
- I would contact your insurance company and simply ask if they report to any credit bureaus.(6 votes)
- Why checking your credit score could lower it?(7 votes)
- Interesting video in view of the recent extremely large data breach involving Equifax. How does such a data breach occur?(4 votes)
- The maliciousness of people cannot offset good security. What I'm saying is, a breach is likely to occur not when someone is out to get info like that, because someone always is, but when security is bad. If you decide to keep your doors and windows not only unlocked, but also wide open, and have a sign on your house that says "I HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE'S MONEY HERE" on top of that, someone walking in is inevitable.(8 votes)
- Why do companies lie to you with credit cards and their benefits?(4 votes)
- Why do companies lie to you with credit cards and their benefits?(3 votes)
- I financed a tv at Best Buy, when I finish paying it off do I wait until it shows on my credit karma report that I paid off everything before I finance something else.
@pm 1:18(3 votes) - So... there's three credit bureaus. Do they all say the same things though? Like what if one tells the bank something different than another might? And why does checking your credit score lower it, or is that a myth?(3 votes)
- is it ok to symbolise the balance''s?(3 votes)
Video transcript
- As long as human beings have been lending things
to other human beings, there's always been the question of how likely is that person
that I'm lending that thing to going to give it back? So there's always been this
question of credit worthiness. Is this person a good credit risk? If I lend them money, how
likely are they going to be to pay me back? Now people have always found ways to come up with a solution here. How much money do they have? What kind of income do they have? But in 1956, two gentlemen said, "Hey, I think we can apply
the ideas of mathematics, "the ideas of statistics, "to actually become a
little bit more scientific "about how credit worthy someone is." and so these two gentlemen
started what is known as the Fair Isaac Corporation. Fair Isaac Corporation. And when I first heard the name, I assumed it was started by
a particularly fair Isaac, or at least an Isaac who
thought that he was fair, so much so that he named it fair Isaac, but it's actually named
after the two founders, Bill Fair, and Earl Isaac. Actually the first one
was Fair, comma, Isaac, and Corporation, then changed
to Fair Isaac Corporation. And now it's often known as FICO. Often known as FICO. And what they came up with, Bill Fair was an engineer, Earl Isaac was a mathematician, is an algorithm for computing
how credit worthy someone is. So they came up with an algorithm, and the algorithm has changed since 1956, because clearly, technology has changed, and our understanding of statistics, and even the world itself that we're trying to
understand has changed. But they started focusing
on the problem of, given some inputs, can I give a score that can give you a sense of
someone's credit worthiness. So they would take inputs, they would take inputs like
total debt, total debt, and actually not just total
debt, but available debt. Total debt to how much credit someone could get access to. Things like payment history, so have they paid all their debts on time? Payment history. And other things, like
length of credit history, and the types of credit. So length, length, and types of credit. And other things like how many people are inquiring about this person's credit, and things like that. And then they came up with a score. And today, the modern FICO score, and the FICO really is the, I would say, the dominant type of credit score. There are other types of algorithms that people use, but FICO is still the predominant one. It will give you a score
that is between 300 and 850. So 300 at the low end,
850 at the high end. And the general view is, the general view, and I actually talked to
some folks at some banks to get their sense of things, that anything between
780 and 850 is excellent. You have excellent credit, you are amongst the best credit risk. You are viewed to be very likely to pay off whatever loan
you're about to get. Anything between 720 and 780 is considered still above average. It's still considered very good. And anything between 650, 650. We'll do that a different color. Anything between 650 and 720 is considered kind of middle,
or average, or just okay. And anything less than 650 is not so good, often referred to as sub-prime. Prime would be an excellent credit risk, or a good credit risk,
or an okay credit risk. Sub-prime means okay, this
person's a little bit riskier to lend money to. So this is not so good. Now, the question is,
who actually collects all of this information in order to apply the FICO algorithm? And this is where credit
bureaus come into the picture. So FICO, and it's a large
multi-billion dollar company now, that does many, many, many things, but it's most famous for
devising the FICO algorithm. But the way that the credit
scores tend to be calculated is by the credit bureaus. So the credit bureaus are the folks that will actually collect the data, collect the data. Your total debt, payment
history, and other things, apply the FICO algorithm, and then give you your
actual credit score. And the three major credit bureaus are TransUnion, TransUnion. Experian, Experian, and Equifax. So, if you were about
to lend someone money, you could go to one of
these credit bureaus, and you could do an inquiry
into their credit score. And actually, you,
yourself, as an individual can go and inquire about your credit score with each of these bureaus. And they offer different
types of algorithms, but the FICO one is the most used one. So you could get a FICO score from each of these credit unions. And the score might be
a little bit different, because they all might have
slightly different data here. But the way that it would generally work, is if you were to go to your bank and ask for a mortgage, or go to a credit card company,
and ask for a credit card, or get a car loan, that entity, so let's say that this is the bank right over here, that might be interested
in lending you money, they are going to go, they are going to go to one
of these credit bureaus. They're gonna go to one
of these credit bureaus, and say, "Hey, give me this
person's credit score." And so that credit bureau's gonna look at all the data
that it has on that person, put it into the FICO algorithm, if the bank wants the FICO credit score, and give a score right over here. And if you have excellent credit, then you might get a low interest rate, or you might definitely get the loan. If you have a good credit
score, you'll get the loan, but it'll be a slightly
higher interest rate. But if you have really bad credit, your probably not going
to get the loan at all. Now the last question
you're probably asking is well, how do these credit
bureaus get the information? How do they know how
much total debt I have, and my payment history, and the lengths and types
of credit that I have, and the number of inquiries that come in. Well, in exchange for lenders being allowed to make these inquiries and they usually pay the credit bureaus to get the information, they also agree to share this information. So let's say this bank
does give you the loan, they will tell the credit bureaus, they agree to tell the credit bureaus that they gave you that loan, and they will also tell the credit bureau about your payment history. If you pay them all on time, the credit bureaus will know about that, and they'll be able to
input into your FICO score. But if you don't pay it on time, they will also know about that, and that will also affect your FICO score.