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Lesson 3: Cranach and Altdorfer- Lucas Cranach the Elder, Saint Maurice — a Black saint in the Renaissance
- Cranach, Law and Gospel (Law and Grace)
- Cranach, Adam and Eve
- Cranach's Adam and Eve
- Cranach the Elder, Cupid complaining to Venus
- Cranach the Elder, Judith with the Head of Holofernes
- Altdorfer, the Battle of Issus
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Cranach the Elder, Cupid complaining to Venus
Lucas Cranach the Elder, Cupid complaining to Venus, c. 1525, oil on wood, 81.3 x 54.6 cm (The National Gallery, London). Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.
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- what is the fruit on the tree? are they peaches? mangoes?(3 votes)
- According to wikipedia's "peach" page: The peach was brought to the Americas by Spanish explorers in the 16th century, and eventually made it to England and France in the 17th century, where it was a prized and expensive treat.
I would venture a guess that Cranach painted apples and not peaches since he was painting in the early 16th century in Germany which most likely would see the importation of peaches after Spain, England and France.(5 votes)
- In the questions on the previous Adam and Eve video, someone asked about Eve having two left hands. Looking at Venus' right hand, it looks like Cranach, as a painter, didn't do too well with hands. Any thoughts on this?(6 votes)
- mm maybe your right good question although i8 am an artist who is not that good certainly not as good as Cranach! and i have no trouble with hands.(1 vote)
- Is that any possibility that this painting was made for a particular collection, being this woman a real lady as if she was "like a Venus" or "the Venus herself" instead of a real Venus dressed up like an ideal Saxon lady? I mean, when I saw this painting I immediately thought about those paintings of aristocrats dressed like gods or allegories and that painting of Queen Victoria with her hair loose... I saw in the National Gallery site that there are two more versions of this painting, one has her hand down and a different hat, the third has a more modest approach, with a veil covering her body and hair tied in a net.(4 votes)
- What is that thing on venus' head?(2 votes)
- An elaborate, fur-brimmed headdress typical of the aristocratic, courtly attire of Saxony (the fact she is nude besides this headdress and her chunky gold jewellery serves to accentuate her nudity).(2 votes)
- Dr. Beth said that this painting feels very much German to her. Was she referring to the painter's style/technique or the elements in the painting? What're are the key German attributes?(1 vote)
Video transcript
(piano music) Man: Pleasure often comes with
a cost, with a little pain. Lucas Cranach the elder
reminds us of us of that in his painting, Cupid
Complaining to Venus. Woman: We see Cupid who
has reached for a honeycomb only to be stung by a whole set of bees. He's looking up at
Venus his mother in pain as though he's pleading for her sympathy. Man: She doesn't seem to be paying
attention to him at all however. Instead, she is looking out
at us as a sultry seducer. Woman: There is no denying the
eroticism of this painting, of her body, of her look toward us, the way that she
positions her legs between that branch, the way that she reaches
up toward the apples on the tree, reminding us of Eve
and the Garden of Eden. Man: So this is really
a bit of a composite. You have on the one hand this
reference back to antiquity. You have Venus the goddess
of love and beauty. You have her son Cupid. These
are all classical references. In fact, in the top you have
a translation from the Latin, which actually speaks to the relationship between pain and pleasure, yet we also have this very dramatic image with this dark forest on the left and fashions actually that
relate to the Saxon court. Woman: Cranach was court
painter to the electors, the rulers of Saxony. Man: Who actually
commissioned this painting. Woman: And so the woman here, Venus, although she's the pagan
goddess of love as you said, is wearing the headdress and necklaces of an Aristocratic woman
at the court in Saxony. Man: It's a little bit vampy
to have this nude woman wear both jewelry and that wild headdress. Woman: And be utterly nude otherwise. Man: Yeah it is. She is
painted so seductively that he really is challenging
us with the moral issues of our lust. Woman: Of whether the
pleasure is worth the pain. Man: Exactly. Woman: So on the left we
have a German forest with stag and a doe and on
the right a very deep landscape with a lovely
reflection in the river. Man: You can see in that water two swans and the reflection of a
house with a red roof. Beyond that is wonderfully fanciful cliffs and there is a castle up at the top. There is a house that is
cantilevered over on the right side. Woman: And the castle on the river itself. Man: With the beautiful
reflection in that still water. Woman: This is an Aristocratic image.
This is an image of castles on rivers. It feels German to me in so many ways. The forest, the rivers, the castles. Man: And yet in the foreground
you have this wonderful classicized literary reference. And it's not only sexual but
it's also really playful. Let's not forget about
the complaining infant. (piano music).