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Carbocation stability and rearrangement introduction

Representing carbocations using Lewis structures and model showing the empty p orbital. Hyperconjugation and rearrangements to form more stable carbocations.

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  • spunky sam blue style avatar for user Jagu Jagu
    In any given reaction, does every time this type of stabilizing effect occur if possible ?
    Does this happen only when its in reacting conditions, like presence of solvents and reagents ?
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  • leaf green style avatar for user brian.thomas16
    at , I am unsure about what you said about Alkyl groups: If you are referring to the alkyl groups ( the molecules located to the left and right of carbon 2), they are methyl groups.
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  • female robot grace style avatar for user tyersome
    Can I infer from this video that hyperconjugation is part of the mechanism of carbocation rearrangement?
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  • blobby green style avatar for user Alberto Andre Rivera
    If the central carbon of the hydropropane only has three bonds wouldn't the lone pair of electrons give it a formal negative charge?
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    • piceratops ultimate style avatar for user Bailan
      If the carbon is only bonded to three, formal charge should be +1 .
      The formal charge is the hypothetical charge that would result if all bonding electrons are shared equally.
      F.c = valence electrosn in free atom-valence electrons in bonded atom
      If there are only three bonds, that means, 4-3=1.
      Formal charge talsk
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  • starky tree style avatar for user Isaac
    At , suppose we have a methyl group attached to the carbon that is attached with a H (colored red). So will there be a hydride shift reaction or a methyl shift reaction....? Also how do we determine which one of those reactions has more possibility to occur than the other..?
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    • leaf red style avatar for user Richard
      So If were to add a methyl group to that carbon then it would have five bonds making it pentavalent which doesn't really happen with stable organic molecules. So if we add that methyl group we'll have to get rid of one of the other groups that are bonded to that central carbon. The only choice which would make a different molecule would be that hydrogen atom. So if we replace that hydrogen with a methyl group that'll make it a 4° carbon with no hydrogens available to do a hydride shift. A methyl shift would then be the only possibility.

      Hope that helps.
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  • blobby green style avatar for user smgarjun
    What happens to the electron-donating groups that help stabilize a carbocation? Do they themselves become electron deficient?
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  • leafers seed style avatar for user kevsercivek
    By stability do you mean that the more stable carbocation requires less energy to form, or that the more stable carbocation will less likely react to form a bond in a reaction?
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    • leaf green style avatar for user Swapnal
      After the formation of a carbocation, the one more stable is generally referred to as the one that is less reactive.. Reactions when proceed spontaneously are mainly driven by the motive to have an overall reduction in the energy, hence higher stability. If a species is highly reactive, i.e it prefers to react, it is doing so to attain a more stable, less energetical structure, which makes the species itself less stable in comparision. Hence giving Higher reactivity-->Lower stability.
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  • blobby green style avatar for user Jean Michel Felix
    So, can you explain why a tertiary carbonation is more stable than a primary carbonation relating to inductive effect and hyperconjugation ?
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  • duskpin sapling style avatar for user Cupquaint
    Can a carbocation shift from primary to secondary, or is it only from secondary to tertiary? (I am thinking specifically Sn1 reactions) I've seen lots of examples of the latter, but not the former.
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    • blobby green style avatar for user Hall John
      If I'm understanding your question I am pretty sure the answer is yes. Consider the model for the methyl shift but remove the methyl group attached to the carbocation. Then it only has the 2 H attached and the R group. If a methyl shifts to that end carbon moving it moves the carbocation to a tertiary location and greatly improves the stability. (Assuming I've understood the lesson!)
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    In the methyl shift example, is it possible for the hydrogen to donate an electron, and leave a double bond?
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Video transcript

- [Narrator] Here I have three pictures of the same carbocation. And a carbocation has a carbon that's positively charged, which we call a cation in chemistry. So, if you take these words, carbon and cation, and combine them, you get carbocation. Let's look at the picture in the middle first. So, this carbon is positively charged. Normally, carbon has four bonds to it, but here it has only three. So, here's one, here's two, and here's three. And because it has only three bonds, it has a plus one formal charge. And carbocations are very reactive, because carbon likes to form four bonds. Let's look at the same carbocation over here on the left, and the carbon in magenta, the one with the plus one formal charge is this one. And since we aren't drawing in our atoms on this bond line structure, sometimes students forget that because this carbon in magenta has a plus one formal charge, that means it must have a hydrogen bonded to it. So, don't forget about that when you're looking at bond line structures. Finally, let's look at this same carbocation on the right. The carbon in magenta is right here. That's the one with the plus one formal charge on it. Because the carbon in magenta has only three bonds to it, this carbon is sp2 hybridized. And we know from earlier videos an sp2 hybridized carbon is going to have an unhybridized p orbital. So, here is our unhybridized p orbital, and also the geometry around that sp2 hybridized carbon is planar. So, let me see if I can sketch in a plane here, indicating the atoms that are directly bonded to that carbon are in a plane around that carbon here. Now let's look at a model of this same carbocation. Here is our sp2 hybridized carbon, and here is our unfilled p orbital. On the left, a methyl group is directly bonded to that positively charged carbon, and on the right we have another methyl group. So, two alkyl groups are bonded to that positively charged carbon, and we call this a secondary carbocation since it has two alkyl groups directly attached to the positive charge. And these alkyl groups can help to stabilize our carbocation. So, let me go ahead and show that. So, some of this electron density in here in this bond can be donated to this empty p orbital, and opposites attract, so donating some electron density helps to stabilize the carbocation. So, alkyl groups stabilize carbocations. This alkyl group on the right can do the same thing, so some electron density from in here can help to stabilize our carbocation, but notice in the back, our hydrogen, right, the electron density in this bond can't be donated into the p orbital, so the geometry isn't right. So, alkyl groups stabilize carbocations, and hydrogens do not. So, it makes sense that the more alkyl groups you have the more stable your carbocation. We just saw that alkyl groups stabilize a carbocation by donating electron density to the empty p orbital. This effect is called hyperconjugation. So, as you increase in the number of alkyl groups you should increase in the stabilization of your carbocation. So, let's look at this carbocation on the left. There's only one alkyl group directly bonded to this positively charged carbon, so we would call this a primary carbocation. In the middle, we have two alkyl groups directly bonded to this positively charged carbon. That would be a secondary carbocation, like the example in the picture above, and finally, if we have three alkyl groups directly bonded to our positively charged carbon, that would be a tertiary carbocation. The more alkyl groups you have the more you stabilize your carbocation. So, a tertiary carbocation is more stable than a secondary carbocation. And a secondary carbocation is much more stable than a primary carbocation. So, these are so unstable they might not even exist. So, we'll focus on secondary and tertiary carbocations. Now that we understand carbocation stability, let's look at an introduction to carbocation rearrangements. One possible rearrangement is something called a hydride shift. So first, let's study what a hydride ion is. We know that hydrogen has one valence electron. And if you take away the one valence electron from hydrogen, you would be left with H plus, which we know is a proton. But, if you added an electron to a neutral hydrogen atom you would now have two valence electrons. Let me draw that in there. Which would give this a negative one formal charge. And that is hydride ion. So, hydrogen with two electrons and a negative one formal charge is what's called a hydride. So, a hydride shift could occur to form a more stable carbocation. So, let's look at this carbocation here. We know that this carbon has the plus one formal charge. Here's one alkyl group, and here's a second alkyl group, so this is a secondary carbocation. And we can do a hydride shift. Before I show how to draw a hydride shift, let's go to the video so we can see it with the model set. So, here is that secondary carbocation. You can see the geometry around our sp2 hybridized carbon is planar. You can also see our empty p orbital here with the paddles, and we have two alkyl groups directly bonded to this carbon. On the right there's a methyl group, and on the left we have this big alkyl group. And in the back we have a hydrogen. So, notice that we are donating some electron density from this bond into our empty p orbital. We know that helps to stabilize our carbocation. But let me just take these paddles off here, and let's show a hydride shift. So remember, a hydride is a hydrogen and its two electrons, so I'm gonna take this hydrogen and these two electrons in this bond and I'm going to show a shift from this carbon to the carbon on the right. And that's a hydride shift. Now, on the left we took a bond away from this carbon, so that should be positively charged, and it should be planar or flat, but it's not because of the model set. I had to use a tetrahedral carbon here, so I'll show a new model set in a minute to show that it actually is planar. And, on the right, this should be tetrahedral. This carbon went from being sp2 hybridized to sp3. So, let me get out the new model set here, so we can better visualize what the carbocation actually looks like. So, this carbon, is our sp2 hybridized carbon now, and you can see it's planar around that carbon. And, this is a tertiary carbocation. We have a methyl group here, a methyl group here, and then an alkyl group over here. So, a tertiary carbocation is more stable than a secondary. You can also see at this carbon now we have an sp3 hybridized carbon here, so the geometry around that carbon is tetrahedral. It went from being planar to tetrahedral geometry. Let's draw the hydride shift that we saw in the video. So, attached to this carbon we know there is a hydrogen. And this hydrogen and these two electrons can move over to this carbon on the right to form a more stable carbocation. So, let's draw in that new carbocation. So, let me draw this in here. I'm gonna draw in that hydrogen in red, and let me go ahead and highlight it in red here like that, and notice we're taking a bond away from this carbon on the left. So, that's this carbon here. And that's a tertiary carbocation as we saw in the video, so we need to put a plus one formal charge on this carbon. Notice that there was a hydrogen on this carbon to start with, and it's still there in our tertiary carbocation. You can see it better in the video. But, the goal is to form a more stable carbocation in a rearrangement. And we go from a secondary carbocation on the left to a tertiary carbocation on the right, which we know is more stable. Finally, let's do one more kind of carbocation rearrangement. This one's called a methyl shift. So, this carbocation is secondary. The carbon with the plus one formal charge is directly bonded to a methyl group, and this alkyl group over here. So, for a methyl shift, we could take this methyl group here and we could show this methyl group moving from this carbon on the left to this carbon on the right. Let me go ahead and color code. So, I'm gonna say the carbon on the left I'm referring to as red, and the carbon on the right that I'm referring to is blue. So, the methyl group shifts from the carbon in red to the carbon in blue. And let's show the result of that methyl shift. So now, we would have a carbocation that looks like this. So, the carbon in red loses a bond. So, here's the carbon in red, it's sp3 hybridized, it's tetrahedral, but when it loses a bond, here's the carbon in red, now it's sp2 hybridized and has planar geometry with a plus one formal charge. The carbon in blue, let me circle that here, it was sp2 hybridized and planar, but it's gaining a methyl group, right? So, here's the methyl group that it's gaining, and this is the carbon in the blue, and it goes from being sp2 hybridized to now being sp3 hybridized. So remember, there was a hydrogen on this carbon in blue to begin with, and it's still there for our carbocation. So, this a tertiary carbocation, which we know is more stable than a secondary, so a methyl shift resulted in the more stable carbocation.