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Course: Organic chemistry > Unit 14
Lesson 3: Proton NMR- Introduction to proton NMR
- Nuclear shielding
- Chemical equivalence
- Chemical shift
- Electronegativity and chemical shift
- Diamagnetic anisotropy
- Integration
- Spin-spin splitting (coupling)
- Multiplicity: n + 1 rule
- Coupling constant
- Complex splitting
- Hydrogen deficiency index
- Proton NMR practice 1
- Proton NMR practice 2
- Proton NMR practice 3
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Proton NMR practice 3
More practice determining the structure of a molecule from the molecular formula, hydrogen deficiency index, and proton NMR spectrum. Uses example of ethanol. Created by Jay.
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- In the first problem with the aldehyde, the Ch2 adjacent to the carbonyl only has 3 peaks showing that indeed it is connected to another CH2 group. However, there is another neighboring H on the carbonyl which according to you other videos (Complex splitting) would have caused the first CH2 to produce a 6 peak signal. This isn't the case(14 votes)
- He said that the coupling constant is very small for the between CH2 hydrogens and aldehyde H. It should be 6 peaks usually. Since the coupling constant is very small we don't see the splitting caused by the aldehyde H unless we zoom-in.(6 votes)
- At, how come the last hydrogen is not shifted further downfield if it is attached to an oxygen? To my understanding, the closer the protons are to electronegative atoms, the more deshielded they are, and therefore, the further downfield we will find them. 6:04(8 votes)
- In concentrated solutions, O-H protons in alcohols are deshielded by hydrogen bonding, and they absorb at 3-5. In dilute solutions, the signals are observed around 2, as in this case.(3 votes)
- You discussed aldehyde protons in at... made me curious about carboxy protons and amine/amide proton and where to find them? any chance there could be more practice problems with those? 3:50(8 votes)
- how do yo determine number of protons if it is not given to you through integration or otherwise?(6 votes)
- Is HDI the same as DBE? (double bond equivalents)(3 votes)
- Yes, the hydrogen deficiency index is the same as the double bond equivalents.(5 votes)
- is there a link that explains 13C-NMR? i have more difficulty with that than proton-NMR(2 votes)
- Here are some links that might help:
http://www.chemguide.co.uk/analysis/nmr/interpretc13.html
http://www.chem.ucalgary.ca/courses/351/Carey5th/Ch13/ch13-cnmr-1.html
http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Core/Physical_Chemistry/Spectroscopy/Magnetic_Resonance_Spectroscopies/Nuclear_Magnetic_Resonance/NMR%3A_Experimental/Carbon-13_NMR/Interpreting_C-13_NMR_Spectra(6 votes)
- Based on the NMR, there should be four neighbouring protons to the benzene ring but aren't only 2 protons attached to the Carbon thats attached to the benzene ring?(2 votes)
- What makes you say there should be four neighbouring protons to the benzene ring?(1 vote)
- AtIsn't CH2 group that is in between carbonyl group and CH2 (attached to benzene) involved in the complex splitting? Should we ignore about 2 neighboring protons for this group as mentioned earlier in the video? I thought (n+1) does not apply for this CH2 group. Please help!! 3:30(1 vote)
- Athe says there is splitting, but the coupling constant is so small that we can't usually observe it 3:39(2 votes)
- Hi,
So protons attached to O,N and S still generate a signal? Aren't they "labile"?(1 vote)- They do generate a signal just sometimes you won’t observe it due to the solvent being used(2 votes)
- At, its stated that the proton that is attached to the O, making the alcohol group, is "passed from one molecule to another". I am assuming that this means the proton (H) is passed from one ethanol molecule to another. If that is the case, why does that occur? 6:45(1 vote)
Video transcript
- [Voiceover] For this
NMR, the molecular formula is C9H10O, let's go ahead and calculate the
hydrogen deficiency index. So if we have nine carbons, the maximum number of
hydrogens we can have, is two times nine plus two. And two times nine, plus two, is equal to 20, so for nine carbons, 20 hydrogens is the maximum number. Here we have only 10 hydrogens, so we are missing 10 hydrogens, or we're missing five pairs of hydrogens, therefore, the hydrogen deficiency index is equal to five. With an HDI of four or higher, you think benzene rings, so, I'm going to go ahead and draw
a benzene ring in here because I'm pretty sure there's one in our molecule, and, if we look down here for this very complicated looking signal, it's really a bunch of overlapping signals from protons on the benzene ring, and I know that because
we're in the aromatic proton region for our NMR. All right, so right in here. So I have five aromatic protons, let me go ahead and draw them in. So I put my five aromatic protons in slightly different environments, giving us overlapping signals, which give us this complicated
looking one down here. All right, that takes
care of an HDI of four, but we have an HDI of five, so we have one more thing, and it's, of course, going to be a double bond, and I know that because
of this signal down here between nine and 10. Remember, a signal between nine and 10, that's the region for an aldehyde proton. So we have an aldehyde proton over here, so I draw in my carbonyl, and I draw in my hydrogen, and then this is another piece of the puzzle here. So this aldehyde is
connected to something. All right, let's go to these
other two signals down here, so this signal represents two protons, so I'm going to write a CH2 here. How many neighboring protons do we have for those two CH2 protons? Well, there's one, two, three peaks, so if there's three peaks, just subtract one to figure out how many neighboring protons you have. So three minus one, is equal to two. So this is a CH2 with two neighbors. It's the exact same thing for this signal, so this represents two protons, so this would be a CH2, and once again, we have three peaks, one, two, three. So three minus one is two, so this is a CH2 with two neighbors, and so these two CH2s must
be right next to each other, so let me draw that out here. So if we have one CH2,
next to another CH2, each of those CH2 protons
have two neighbors, for example, if I think
about these right here, right, how many neighboring protons? Well, this is the carbon next door, and I have two neighboring protons, so that makes sense when we look at the signal on the NMR. There's only one way to put together these different pieces of the puzzle, all right, so we would have to put a CH2 coming off this place on our benzene ring, and then another CH2, and then finally, our aldehyde, so I'll go ahead and draw in our aldehyde like that. So that must be the
structure of our molecule. So a little bit about
this aldehyde proton, let me go ahead and
highlight it over here. So this aldehyde proton right here, or right here, we only see a singlet on the NMR spectrum, but
it does have two neighbors, all right, so let me go ahead and draw in the neighboring proton. So they're on this carbon right here, so if we're thinking
about the aldehyde proton, this is the carbon next door, and so we have two neighboring protons, and with two neighbors, you might think we
would get some splitting for the signal for this
aldehyde proton here, but we don't notice any on the NMR, and normally you don't see any splitting, because the coupling constant is usually very small, and so therefore, the signal, often it looks like it's a singlet, but sometimes, if you zoom in, you can
observe some splitting for the aldehyde proton. For this NMR, we have a
signal four two protons, so that must be a CH2, and how many neighboring protons? Well, for this signal we have four peaks, one, two, three, four, so four minus one is three, so three neighboring protons for these two CH2 protons. What about the chemical
shift for this signal? So the chemical shift is getting close to four parts per million, and in that range, that
makes us think about those protons being bonded to a carbon that's bonded to an electronegative atom. And if we look at our molecular formula, the only electronegative
atom we see on here is oxygen, so that oxygen must be bonded to this carbon, so let's
go ahead and draw that. So that oxygen is bonded to that carbon, and that carbon is
bonded to two hydrogens, so that's what we have so far. So the oxygen is more electronegative than carbon, the oxygen is withdrawing some electron density
from these two protons, giving us a higher value
for the chemical shift. So this signal for these two protons in magenta, is right here. Next, let's look at this signal. So we have three protons, so a CH3, how many neighboring protons? Well, for our signal, we see, one, two, three peaks, so three minus one is two, so two neighboring protons. And so two neighboring protons must be the ones in magenta. So we can go ahead and put
our methyl group on here, and let's use red for the methyl protons, so these three methyl protons are giving us this signal. We predicted two neighbors, and those neighboring protons, are the ones in magenta right here. So those are the two neighbors. For the ones in magenta, all right, we predicted three neighbors, and so that's one, two, and three. Finally, let's look at the last signal, so we only have one more proton to think about, there's only one place to put it, right, it
must go on the oxygen. So this represents... This is the NMR spectrum
for an alcohol, for ethanol. So this, this proton in blue, is this signal on the NMR spectrum. And the chemical shift is hard to predict for an alcoholic proton. Usually you see two to
five parts per million, but it's really hard to predict exactly where this signal
is going to appear. And also, let's think about how many neighboring protons
this proton in blue has. All right, so the carbon next door has two neighbors, so you would think, you would expect two plus one peaks. If N is equal to two, two
plus one gives us three, so we would expect a
triplet for this signal, but we only see a singlet. And that's because this proton, this alcoholic proton, rapidly passes from one
molecule to another, and this proton transfer is so fast, that the proton never
stays in place long enough to interact with these
neighboring protons, and so the NMR machine usually
doesn't show any splitting. Under the right conditions, it is possible for splitting of the alcoholic proton to occur, and you might see a triplet here. But on most NMRs, you're only going to see a singlet, which is another clue on your NMR spectrum.