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Lesson 2: Humanity on earth- Human evolution overview
- Understanding calendar notation
- Correction calendar notation
- Development of agriculture and writing
- Firestick farming in early Australia
- Collective learning
- Thomas Malthus and population growth
- Agriculture and human population
- Energy inputs for tilling a hectare of land
- Random predictions for 2060
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Thomas Malthus and population growth
Thomas Malthus's views on population. Malthusian limits. Created by Sal Khan.
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- It seems like we have more junk food today and less real food than people did in the past. Is this the case?(28 votes)
- Indeed. Some burgers do have pink slime. Places like McDonalds, Burger King and Jack-in-the-box are bound to have this nasty substance.(14 votes)
- If there is a "Malthusian limit", what would be the impact of longer life spans on this limit?(17 votes)
- Population is affected by the death of and birth of our human species. A longer lifespan would cause a greater increase in population because the older generation would not die so early. They would stay alive with their Children and maybe even Great Great Grandchildren, possibly even reproducing for a longer time period because of their longevity. This would add to the collective population on a whole. The Malthusian limit would be reached faster because all of these people do need to eat at their no doubt HUGE family reunions and this is where crops come into affect.(3 votes)
- But due to medical advancements the human life-span has increased, therefore if people live a very long time, and younger generations still reproduce, will there be enough food production crops, live stock, factory,etc and land for everyone?(8 votes)
- If the average age of child-bearing rises to compensate, then yes.(7 votes)
- I think T.M is right to a certain extent. We do tend to reproduce more when there's food and better living conditions but the demographic transition prevents us from reaching the "Malthusian line"
There's a possible chance that the Malthusian law might occur (to some resources) due to the mass consumption society which we live in and which overpopulated nations like China ans India will sooner or later transform into. But this creates a new law called the Recourse limitation by over consumption(8 votes)- This statement has several flaws....if the demographic transition keeps us from reaching the line then why hasnt it happened in Africa? The Malthusian catastrophe does not happen to resources, it happens to people. People exceed the natural limitations, or the natural limitations change and population adjusts. I dont know what is intended by resourse limitation by over consumption, or why it would be a new law when no new law is needed....(0 votes)
- why does Sal draw the population line straight even though the birth rate is usually around a certain amount of the overall population?(2 votes)
- TM was, of course, ahead of birth control and the sexual revolution, which de-railed the principles in "The Population Bomb" by Paul Ehrlich in the early 1970's. These factors result in lower than the 2.2 babies per family to increase a country's population in developed countries. I wonder what the effect of Catholic and Mormon(and other cultural) birth rates are on developed countries?(3 votes)
- Research you population demographics. Most industrialized countries are in a demographic winter for native born citizens - immigration brings them to population replacement levels. However, the largest demographic surplus is coming from the Middle East. Even Mormons and Catholics are having smaller families compared to the Muslim nations (I should know I've been a Mormon my whole life). Check out the demographic decline over the next 50 years for China and the rest of Asia - the pyramid will be turned upside down with far more elderly than youth. If you look you can find minutes to meetings concerning their worry over how the young will fill enough jobs to support the elderly.(1 vote)
- Won't human population eventually get so big that earth wouldn't be able to handle it?(1 vote)
- It depends what you mean by "handle it". The earth doesn't care how many people are on it. But a large population will eventually find there are not enough resources to support everyone. That will limit the population.(4 votes)
- if there are enough calories and food and money and stuff like that then why is there such a staggering ammout of poor people in the us?(1 vote)
- Inefficiencies in distributing those resources, either due to physical limitations, imposed policies, or cultural norms.(3 votes)
- Does negative population growth mean that the particular country having the negative population(japan,germany) growth is stable??(0 votes)
- You are correct. A negative population growth means that the total population is decreasing.(3 votes)
- Have Germany and Japan already hit the Malthusian limit?(1 vote)
- No. In fact, just as he indicated toward the end of this film, most post-modern countries (e.g. Japan, the U.S., Germany et. al.) experience a population decline rather than a population increase. In other words, something natural - not cited by Malthus, coincidentally - causes post-modern countries, for example Japan, to have a lower population as time continues past modernity. It is said that the United States would exhibit this as much as most European nations if it were not for the influx of immigrants.(3 votes)
Video transcript
The 1700s in Europe
are often referred to as the Age of Enlightenment. It was a time, we'd come
out of the Renaissance. We'd rediscovered science
and reason and in the 1700s, we saw that come about with
even more progress of society. As we exit the 1700s and
enter into the 1800s, we start having the
Industrial Revolution. And people saw the steady
march of human reason, of human progress. And because of this, a
lot of people were saying, hey, humanity will
continue to improve. It will improve
forever, to a point that poverty will go away. We will turn into this
perfect utopian civilization without wars, without
strife of any kind. And there was something
to be said about that. You had significant
improvements. In fact, you had even
more dramatic improvements once the Industrial
Revolution started. But not every one in the
late 1700s was as optimistic. And one of the more famous
not-so-optimistic people was Thomas Malthus,
right over here. And I will just
quote him directly. This is from his "Essay on
the Principle of Population." "The power of population
is so superior to the power of the earth to produce
subsistence for man, that premature death must,
in some shape or other, visit the human race." Very uplifting. "The vices of mankind are
active and able ministers of depopulation. They are the precursors in
the great army of destruction, and often finish the
dreadful work themselves. But should they fail in
this war of extermination, sickly seasons,
epidemics, pestilence, and plague advance in
terrific array, and sweep off their thousands
and tens of thousands. Should success still be
incomplete, gigantic, inevitable famine
stalks in the rear, and with one mighty blow
levels the population with the food of the world." So not so uplifting of a
little quote right over here. But this was his general sense. He lived in a time
where people were being very optimistic
that progress, the march of progress,
would go on forever until we got to some
utopian civilization. But from Thomas
Malthus' point of view, he felt that if people
could reproduce and increase the population, they
will, that there's no way of stopping them. So from his point
of view, the way he saw it-- so let
me on that axis-- let's say that that
is the population, and that this axis
right over here, let's say that that is time. So by his thinking--
and everything that he'd seen in reality
up to that point would back this up-- that if people
had enough food and time, they would reproduce,
and they would reproduce in numbers that would
grow the population. So in his mind, the population
would just keep on increasing. It'll just keep on increasing,
until it can't support itself anymore, until the actual
productivity of the land can't produce enough calories
to feed all of those people. So in his mind, there would
be some natural upper bound based on the actual
amount of food that the earth could support. So let's say that
this is-- let me do that in a different
color-- so in his mind, there was some upper
bound, and once you get to that upper
bound, then all of a sudden, the vices
of mankind will show up. And if those don't start
killing people, then all of these other things
will, epidemics, pestilence, plague, and then famine. People are actually
starving to death. So in his mind, once you
got to this level, maybe you had a couple of
good crops, people are feeling good about
themselves, they overpopulate. But then, all of a sudden,
you have a bad crop, or because you have
a bad crop, people start fighting over
resources, and wars happen. Or maybe the population is so
dense that a plague develops. And then you have a massive
wave of depopulation. And so you would just
oscillate around this limit. And this limit some people
refer to as a Malthusian limit, but it's just really
the limit at which the population can
sustain itself. And from Thomas
Malthus' point of view, he did recognize that there
were technological improvements, especially in things
like agriculture. And that this line
was moving up. He had seen it in
his own lifetime, that this line had moved up. But from his point
of view, however far you moved this
line up, the population will always compensate
for it and catch up to it, and eventually get to
these Malthusian limit. And then the same
not-so-positive things that he talks about
would actually happen. And some people now
say, oh Thomas Malthus, he was so pessimistic. He was obviously wrong. Look at what's happened. We have so much food on
this planet right now. We've gone through multiple
agricultural revolutions, and they are right. In the last 200
years, since Malthus, so since the early
1800s, we really have been able to
outstrip population. So this line up here
has been moving up much faster than
even population. So right now, we actually
do have more calories per person on the
planet than we've had at any time in history. But it's not saying that
Thomas Malthus was wrong, it's just saying that maybe
he was just a little bit pessimistic in when that
limit will be reached. Now the other
dimension where you might say that he was maybe
wrong was in this principle that a population will
increase if it can increase. If there is food, and if there
is time, people will reproduce. And a good
counterpoint to that is what we've now observed in
modern, developed nations. And so this right over here
shows the population growth. I got this from the World Bank. But the population growth of
some modern, developed nations. And you can see the United
States is pretty low, but it's still positive. It's still over half a percent. But even that adds up
when you compound it. But if you look over
here, Japan and Germany-- and Japan and Germany
have less immigration than the United States,
especially Japan-- they are actually negative. So just this population
left to its own devices, especially if you
account for people not going across borders, just
the population itself growing, they actually have
negative growth. So there's some reason to
believe that this is evidence that Thomas Malthus was wrong,
or not completely right. He didn't put into account that
maybe once a society becomes rich enough and educated
enough, that they might not just populate the world, or have
as many kids as they want, they might try to
do other things with their time,
whatever that might be. So I just wanted to
expose you to this idea. Time will tell if Thomas
Malthus, if we can always keep this line of food
productivity growing faster than the population. And time will tell whether
our populations can become, I guess we could say,
developed enough, so that they don't inex--
I can never say that word. They don't always
just keep growing. Maybe they do become a Japan
or a Germany situation. And the world
population, especially if we have a high
rate of literacy, eventually does level off. So it never even has
a chance of hitting up against that Malthusian limit. But I thought I would
introduce you to the idea, and now you can go
to parties and you can talk about things
like Malthusian limits. And if you want to know
what country is maybe closest to the Malthusian
limit right now-- and we've talked about this
before-- but a good case example is something
like Bangladesh. They are, right now, the
most population-dense country in the world. They have 900 people
per square kilometer. And just to give you a
sense of perspective, that's 30 times more dense
than the United States is. So if you took every person
in the United States, and turned them into 30
people in the United States, that would give you a sense
of how dense Bangladesh is. And it's probably due
to a certain degree that it's a very fertile land. The river delta of the
Ganges essentially makes up the entire country. But they do, they have
in the past, had famines. They've gotten a
little bit beyond that. But still, you do
have major problems with flooding and resources. So hopefully they'll be able
to stay ahead of the curve.