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Lesson 2: Seismic waves and how we know earth's structureThe mohorovicic seismic discontinuity
The Mohorovicic Seismic Discontinuity- boundary between crust and mantle (or Moho). Created by Sal Khan.
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- The wave arcs drawn at aroundare constantly bending up towards the surface. In the video on refraction, Sal showed how increasing density caused a bend toward the surface. However, once the wave is moving parallel to the curvature of the earth, why doesn't the angle decrease or stop? On the second half of the arc, while it is moving closer to the surface of the earth, the density is decreasing, so why doesn't the wave start curving the other direction? 1:30(23 votes)
- If the wave started curing in the other direction it would mean the layers of density would have reversed, the layers would be getting more dense. But they don't. Going up, the wave would be traveling into less dense material, thus, turning toward the left. At first I didn't get it either, but I drew it out the way Sal did in Refraction of Seismic Waves. You should also try it!! It all made sense to me after that. Good luck!!(24 votes)
- Why does the change in density happen in a discrete manner, not gradual? i.e why the graph is 2 straight lines, the first half steeper than the second, instead of being a curve tending toward a horizontal?
Yes, it's because we have different layers. But that begs the question, why is the layering discrete instead of a gradient? After all, I presume neither the pressure on the rocks nor the temperature of the rocks happen in discrete fashions?(8 votes)- The reason is that the chemical composition of the mantle is different than that of the crust. Oceanic crust mainly consists of basalt rocks, which has a density of about 3 g/cm^3.
Continental crust mainly consists of silicates (minerals that contain silicon and oxygen) and the overall density is about 2.7 g/cm^3.
The mantle has a much higher content of Mg and Fe and a lower content of Si and therefore it's made up of denser minerals (mainly olivine and pyroxenes) with a density generally greater than 3.2 g/cm^3.
So within the crust the density increases gradually and slowly, at the Mohorovici discontinuity there is a jump in the density due to a change in chemical/mineralogic composition.
P.S.:
Within the mantle there are also discontinuities, which are not based on a change in chemical composition, but the atomic ordering (i.e. the crystal structure of the minerals), which changes when the pressure becomes too high a mineral becomes unstable (pressure of the phase transition). The mineral olivine is responsible for discontinuities at 410 km, 520 km and 660 km below sea level. The latter one is actually a decomposition into two minerals, of which one received its name "Bridgmanite" in 2014 after being observed for the first time in a meteorite.(11 votes)
- I get that the waves speed up when they get to denser material, but then don't they also slow back down as they come back through the crust?(8 votes)
- I have this same question. AtSal shows the refraction of the wave going through the denser material, but when the wave then passes back into the less dense material why is it not refracted again? 4:21(2 votes)
- Where is the next video ?(8 votes)
- This video is out of order. He talks in length about the "innards" of the earth and how we know what we know from seismic waves.(1 vote)
- So when we feel an earthquake, and we're 100 miles from the epicenter, we're actually feeling body waves and not surface waves? Or are we feeling both?(6 votes)
- The body wave can affect the surface, but that does not characterize the body wave as a surface wave. So the earthquake described is a body wave, from start to end. At least, that's how I interpreted it.(1 vote)
- The wave speed equations for both P- and S-waves both have density as a term in the denominator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-wave
Sal says that as density increases, speed does also, but wouldn't the equation suggest that body waves travel slower in more dense materials and not faster? As density increases, the output to this equation would decrease as well. Why does it speed up?(4 votes)- I don't really know the correct answer to this but I am curious and started reading the wikipedia article you attached in your comment. The formula you are looking at (where density appears as a denominator) applies for homogeneous isotropic mediums which means uniform mediums with out irregularities. That is not the case to calculate the velocity of these p-waves on earth but it is the right formula to calculate the velocity of p-waves on a uniform body, where density would be constant for that specific body. I believe that in order to calculate the velocity of the waves through the different mediums of Earth you would have to use Birch's law. In this formula the density is multiplied and then added. Please if someone can correct me I would appreciate it.(1 vote)
- The seismic waves being measured, are they P waves or S waves?(3 votes)
- He only specifies body waves, which can be either P or S waves. Since P waves would be the first to arrive at the seismograph (they're faster), that might be the answer, but it was probably the case that both waves were being measured and compared.(3 votes)
- how do the waves of the earthquake travel underground without grinding up the ground(3 votes)
- I think they do travel on the surface and what´s actually measured is a sum of superficial and deep waves. I assume that shows how fast the underground waves are going is the delay between the detection of the superficial and the deep ones(1 vote)
- atwhen he draws the curved in in what he called crust , why this lines are curved although he said that a uniform layer ? 4:05(3 votes)
- The MATERIAL is uniform, but the DENSITY of the material CHANGES. That's what confused me at first. It is also what causes the gradual refraction. You have to pay close attention to specifically what he's talking about when he mentions uniform mass.(1 vote)
- How did they accurately measure the speed of the seismic wave back then? As far as I know accurate clocks are a relatively new thing, and I'd suspect you need quite accurate (and synchronous!) clocks for measuring the speed of seismic waves.(2 votes)
- Seismic speeds of rocks can be measured in a laboratory. Also, if you know where exactly an earthquake happened, you can use the same equations shown in the video to work out the speed of the seismic waves.(3 votes)
Video transcript
The first realization
that there were actually distinct layers of the earth
came from this guy right over here, Andrija Mohorovicic. And I apologize ahead
of time to any Croatians for butchering any
of the pronunciation. And he was a meteorologist
and a seismologist. And he was the
first one to notice, in 1909, when there
was an earthquake. There was an
earthquake in Croatia, a little bit
southeast of Zagreb. So the earthquake was
roughly over here. And lucky for him and
lucky for us, before that earthquake there
was actually a bunch of seismographic stations
already in the area. And all these
seismographic stations are are, essentially,
instruments were installed so that if there
was any essentially seismic waves
passing, they would be able to measure it
when the waves got there. And what was
interesting about this, Andrija realized that if
the entire earth was just kind of a uniform materials--
let's draw that scenario-- it would get denser
as you go down. And so you would have
kind of this refraction, this continuous refraction, or
these curved pats, happening. But he realized that, let's
say we had an earthquake right over here, so this
is the uniform case. Uniform. Uniform layer, only one layer,
although it does get denser. Then the closer you
are to the earthquake-- so waves would get
there first, then waves would get over there, then
waves would you get over there-- and these are the body waves. These are the ones
that are traveling through the earth's crust. But in general, the further you
are away from the earthquake, or the time it takes for
the waves to get to a point, is going to be proportional
to the distance that point is away
from the earthquake. So you would expect to
see something like this. So if you were to plot
on the horizontal axis, if you were to plot distance,
and on the vertical axis you were to plot time, you
should see something like this. You should see a straight line. And that's just
because it's traveling roughly the same velocity
along any of these arcs. It's maybe getting a little bit
faster as it's getting deeper. But roughly the same
velocity as it's traveling along these arcs. And the distance
of these arcs are proportional to the
distance along the surface, along the distance
of the surface. So essentially, the time is,
they're all traveling roughly at the same velocity,
and their just traveling different distances,
so the time it takes is just going to be
proportional to the distance. But he noticed
something interesting. When he actually measured when
the waves from that earthquake reached different
seismographic stations, he saw something interesting. So this is in the
theoretical, if we had a kind of this
uniform one-layered earth. But he saw something
interesting. So once again, this
is the distance, and this right
over here is time. And at 200 kilometers,
at 200 kilometers away from the earthquake--
so until 200 kilometers, he saw exactly what you would
expect from a uniform earth. It was just the time took was
proportional to the distance. But at 200 kilometers, he
saw something interesting. All of a sudden, the waves
were reaching there faster. The slope of this line changed. It took less time for
each incremental distance. So for some reason,
the waves that we're going at these farther
stations, the stations that were more than 200
kilometers away, somehow they were accelerated. Somehow they were
able to move faster. And he's the one that
realized that this was because the waves
that were getting to these further stations must
have traveled through a more dense layer of the earth. So let's just think about it. So if we have a
more dense layer, it will fit this
information right over here. So if we have a layer
like this, which we now know to be the crust, and then
you have a denser layer, which we now know to be the mantle,
then what you would have is-- so you have your earthquake
right over here, closer by, while you're still
within the crust, it would be proportional. It would be proportional. And then let's say
that this is exactly, this right here is
200 kilometers away. But then if you go any further,
the waves would have to travel. They would travel, so
they would go like this. And then they would get
refracted even harder. So they would get refracted. So they would be a little
bit curved ahead of time. But then they're going to
a much denser material. Or it's not gradually dense,
it's actually kind of a all of a sudden a considerably
more dense material, so it will get
refracted even more. And then it'll go over here. And since it was
able to travel all of this distance in
a denser material, it would have traveled
faster along this path. And so it would get
to this distance on the surface that's more
than 200 kilometers away, it would get there faster. And so he said that there
must be a denser layer that those waves are
traveling through, which we now know
to be the mantle. And the boundary
between what we now know to be the crust
and this denser layer, which we now to be the mantle,
is actually named after him. It's called the
Mohorovicic discontinuity. And sometimes this is
called the Moho for short. So that boundary between
the crust and the mantle is now named for him. But this was a huge discovery,
because not only was he able to tell us,
based on the data-- based on, kind of, indirect
data, just based on earthquakes happening, and measuring
when the earthquakes reach different points of the
earth-- that there probably is a denser layer. And if you do the math,
under continental crust that denser layer is
about 35 kilometers down. He was able to tell us
that there is that layer. But even more
importantly, he was able to give the clue that
just using information from earthquakes,
we could essentially figure out the actual
composition of the earth. Because no one has
ever dug that deep. No one has ever dug into
the mantle, much less the outer core or
the inner core. In the next few
videos, we're going to kind of take this insight,
that we can use information from earthquakes,
to actually think about how we know that there
is an outer liquid core and that there's an
inner core, as well. And then, obviously,
you could keep going and think about all
the different densities within the mantle
and all of that. I won't go into
that much detail, but I'll see you
in the next video.