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Lesson 5: Immunology- Role of phagocytes in innate or nonspecific immunity
- Types of immune responses: Innate and adaptive, humoral vs. cell-mediated
- B lymphocytes (B cells)
- Professional antigen presenting cells (APC) and MHC II complexes
- Helper T cells
- Cytotoxic T cells and MHC I complexes
- Review of B cells, CD4+ T cells and CD8+ T cells
- Inflammatory response
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Helper T cells
Explore the adaptive immune system's key players: B cells, T cells, and helper T cells. Learn how B cells generate antibodies to disable pathogens, while helper T cells raise the alarm. Discover the double-check system that prevents autoimmune diseases and the role of cytotoxic T cells in attacking infiltrated cells. Created by Sal Khan.
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- Since a B-cell is a professional antigen presenting cell (can present antigens on MHC class II), can a B-cell interact with a naive helper T-cell to form effector T-cells? In other words, can a B-cell cause T-cells to proliferate and differentiate or is it only Macrophages and Dendritic cells?(16 votes)
- Not exactly - B cells are capable of activating PREVIOUSLY differentiated effector T cells but are ineffecient at activating naive T cells.
This means that although B cells ingest and process antigens like normal APC do, they don't interact and activate Naive helper T cells like, for instance, dendritic cells do. They interact with helper T cells that have proliferated and differentiated into effector cells. The B cells just "re-activate", if you will, the effector cells.
Let me give you an example:
There is a nice cooperation between B and T cells:
In the lymph nodes, for instance, dendritic cells present antigens to a naive helper T cells where the T cells "hang out" and at the same time, B cells ingest, process and display the same antigen where they "hang out" as well. Upon activation of both cells, they change expression of their chemokine receptors allowing them to migrate towards each other and interact. The B cell then, as an APC, presents the antigen to the effector helper T cell.
Helper T cells activate B cells to proliferate and differentiate - not the other way around :)
I hope this little explanation helped you out :)(20 votes)
- What is the difference between pathogens and antigens?(5 votes)
- A pathogen is an organism or chemical that can cause disease. An antigen is something that produces an immune response. They can sometimes overlap but they are technically two different concepts.(38 votes)
- If your dendritic cells eats something forgien, but not dangerous and helper T cells sounds alarm. Is that the reaction that causes allergy?(17 votes)
- Yes because your body thinks that the allergen is a germ so does the same thing as it would do if there was a germ.(4 votes)
- How do the T helper cells know which B cell has the right antigen?(8 votes)
- so recognition of non self antigens are Naive T cells?(1 vote)
- If we're creating B-cells and T-cells at random and just hoping that they'd bump into the exact right pathogens, is there a chance that they're missing them entirely? It seems like having billions of possibilities for the variable portions makes the immune system a big gamble.
I'm trying to imagine how it would all work. Would there be lots of T-cells and B-cells that would never bind with anything - like their variable portion is just junk? And would there be other times where we have the exact right variable portion, but it's in a part of the body somewhere totally different from the pathogen?
My guess is that there's one of two things happening: 1) Even though there are billions of theoretical possibilities for the variable portion, there are a smaller number of the more common varieties that are most successful at binding with viruses and bacteria and whatnot. These more common variable portions get created more often, and so are more successful.
Or 2) There is just such a huge scale of these cells in the body that we can afford to churn them out at random and hope to get lucky.(9 votes)- I'd suppose so. The vast majority of your B and T cells would never be activated.
As far as the gamble goes. Remember that a pathogen such as a bacteria is going to have many different antigens on its surface, and even those antigens are going to have multiple epitopes. So while it is possible that you could be introduced to an antigen for which you don't have any antibodies that will bind to it, It is far more likely that somewhere you will have an antibody that binds, even if with low affinity, to that antigen. But B-cells that are stimulated by an antigen repeatedly, can over time, produce antibodies with greater affinity to that antigen.
As far as being in the right place at the right time. This is why antigen cells will migrate to lymph nodes after ingesting an antigen, the odds are much much higher when there is a concentrated population, rather than if they were dispersed around the body in somewhat equal concentrations.(1 vote)
- Do helper T cells only have 10,000 copies of the same protein on its surface as well similar to the B-cells?(7 votes)
- Yep :) they are similar to B-cells in that respect(3 votes)
- If the MHCII complex presented by dendritic cells and B-cells both display the same antigen, can a "ready" B-cell not activate a Th-cell by presenting the MHCII complex to the Th-cell, then becoming activated by it immediately? because surely a Th-cell cannot differentiate between an MHCII complex presented by a dendritic cell, or the same MHCII complex presented by a B-Cell?(6 votes)
- Of course, not the same Th can act simultaneously on two distinct cells.
It does not matter to which one would it bind, another Th would bind to another one.(2 votes)
- What's the difference between a pathogen and an antigen?(3 votes)
- A pathogen is any disease-causing agent, especially a virus or microbe.
An antigen is any substance that may be specifically bound by components of the immune system. In other words, an antigen is a substance that invokes the production of antibodies. An antigen may or may not be a living thing. Also, an antigen may or may not have the potential to cause a disease. Thus, an antigen may or may not be a pathogen.
For example, allergens, those substances an individual is allergic to, are not pathogens because they are not actually harmful in and of themselves and don't cause disease. However, they do provoke an unnecessary immune response (and, in some cases, a severe or fatal immune response -- but, understand that the harm comes entirely from the immune system malfunctioning in response to the allergen, not from the allergen itself). Thus, an allergen is an antigen but not a pathogen.
Although nearly all pathogens are antigens, there are exceptions. There are pathogens that are so unfamiliar to the individual that the immune system does not identify them as dangerous and makes no response. In such cases, the individual is likely to die from the pathogen. Thus, there are a small number of pathogens that are not antigens.(4 votes)
- If the antigen bound to the MHC of the dendritic cell is of a particular pathogen and is recognized by a specific T cell ( which leads to its activation), and then upon proliferation, these activated T cells recognize an antigen of the same pathogen bound to the MHC of the "naive" B cell, the binding of the T-cell to this complex leads to the activation of the B cell. What if the polypeptide on the B cell surface (although from the same pathogen) is different from that on the dendritic cell? The digested polypeptides need not be identical right? Essentially, they become different antigens although they are from the same pathogen, so how does the T-cell bind to this complex?(3 votes)
- Nice question.
The peptide fragment that is "shown" in the MHC is actually not that random. Each of the foreign proteins (for MHC class II) are digested into fragments (since most of these digestion is random, almost all kinds of peptides depending on the sequence of the original protein will be formed). Only some of the fragments can be displayed on the MHC, since the edges of the display site have some pretty strict requirements of the peptide to be displayed.
what this achieves is that we get almost all kinds of peptides possible, out of which only certain peptides are displayed. THe same subset of peptides will also be recognised in the T-cell receptors. Hence, the same antigen can stimulate a certain set of T-cells, which have receptors that recognise the allowable peptide fragments.
Each B-cell requires two signals. One from its own receptor, and one from T-cells. The former occurs in much the same way as described for T-cells. THe second occurs because T-cells will identify their specific peptide in at least one of the MHC of that B-cell, since the subset of peptides displayed will be the same, and all of the peptides will be displayed by different MHC.(4 votes)
- how do macrophages get rid of pathogens??(3 votes)
- Macrophages physically engulf pathogens. The reason they are called "Macrophages" is because it describes their function, which translates to "Big eaters".(3 votes)
Video transcript
In talking about the adaptive
immune system, we've already seen that there's a
couple of actors. You have your humoral
response. So this is responding to things
that are floating around in the fluids of the
body and not necessarily things that have infiltrated
your body cells and then you have your cell mediated
response. And then in the humoral
response-- and we're talking about specific humoral
response-- this is where the B cells, the B lymphocytes are
at their most active. And essentially what they do
is, you got a B cell here. It has a very specific antibody,
specific to just this B cell, not B
cells in general. If this happens to be the one
of the billions of B cells that happens to have the
matching key-- or maybe I should say the matching lock
for the key that is the intruding pathogen--
that pathogen will bind to that B cell. Maybe it's a virus, maybe
it's a bacteria. And then the B cell will get
activated and we'll talk about in this video that
the activation doesn't always happen. In fact, it usually doesn't
happen just from this, but so far we've said it gets
activated, it goes into memory B cells, which are essentially
multiple versions of this original B cell-- just saying,
hey, let's have multiple versions of this-- because it
tends to recognize this virus. So in the future if we get this
virus, those multiple versions, those memory cells are
going to be there to have this interaction. This interaction's going to be
more likely to happen in the future because I'm going
to have more of this variety of B cell. And then you have
effector cells. And these are essentially-- so
both of these are B cells. So this guy, once he gets
activated, he proliferates, keeps dividing and
cloning himself. The memory cells just stick
around waiting to be activated in the future. And I'm only drawing one
of these membrane bound antibodies, but there are
actually 10,000 on them. I mean, I could draw
a bunch of these. I don't have to just draw one. The memories just wade around
in the future, but there's more of them now. So in the future, if we get
this virus again, this interaction's going to happen
faster and so they're going to get activated faster. And then the effector B
cells essentially turn into antibody factories. This antibody goes in and it
says, let me just produce-- I've been activated. Let me produce many,
many more versions of that exact antibody. So they get spit out. I drew that one little wrong. So that exact antibody, that
can then be spit out to go disable or tag antigens-- and
not just any antigen-- this antigen right here. And we also saw that the other
thing that the B cell does is it becomes an antigen
presenting cell. So what it does is, as soon as
it recognizes this, it's had this interaction with an antigen
that just matches the variable portion of its membrane
bound antibody. It endocytosizes that. It brings that into itself. It's membrane facilitated so it
just kind of pulls it in, chunks it up, and then presents
a piece of that antibody on an MHC
II molecule. We saw that in the last video. So it cuts that up and presents
a piece of it right there and that's why we call it
an antigen presenting cell. Now in this video, we're going
to talk about why we even have these MHC II molecules. What are we presenting
these antigens to? So we're going to start
talking about the cell mediated-- and actually, even
more than the cell mediated, we're going to talk
about T cells. And I said in the first video,
they're called T cells because they mature in the thymus. And there are two types of
T cells and it's all very confusing because you have B
cells and T cells, but then there are two types
of T cells. You have helper T cells-- and
most people just write T with a lower-case or subscript
h there. And then you have cytotoxic T
cells-- or T cells that kill other cells. Now just so that you have a big,
overarching impression of what does what-- B cells. When they are activated, they
generate antibodies. At 30,000 feet, that's the
best summary of what an activated B cell does. It actually generate
antibodies. Those antibodies attach to
viruses and bacteria and other types of pathogens and disables
them-- either tags them so that macrophages can go
and eat them up or just by throwing all of those antibodies
on to the surface of the pathogen in question. It might disable the pathogens
or essentially bundle them altogether so that it'll be
easier for macrophages to pick them up, but this is only
effective for things that are floating around. Free floating antibodies are
only effective for things that are floating around. Cytotoxic T cells, which I'll
cover in more detail in a future video-- these actually
attack cells that have been infiltrated. So this is attack, kill,
infiltrated cells-- and when I say infiltrated, it could be a
cell that a virus has gone into or some bacteria
has penetrated it. And when I say infiltrated, it
doesn't necessarily even mean something from the outside. It could even be a cancerous
cell that shows itself to be abnormal in some way and so the
cytotoxic T cells will at least attempt to kill them. But what I want to focus on--
out of the three types of lymphocytes-- remember,
everything we've been talking about was leukocytes, white
blood cells, but lymphocytes are a subset of that and these
three are lymphocytes. And they're called that because
they began their development in the
bone marrow. So this guy and this guy
actually do stuff. This guy generates antibodies
that attach to pathogens floating around. This guy directly attacks
cells that are broken in some way. They've either been infiltrated,
they're abnormal, they're cancerous--
who knows what. And I'll do a whole video on
that, but that leads us to a very obvious question. What does this guy do? What does the helper T cell
do if he doesn't directly interface either with pathogens
or produce things that interface with pathogens--
or if he himself doesn't go and directly
kill cells? And the answer is that the
helper T cell's kind of the alarm of the immune system. And on some level, it's almost
the most important. So we talked already in the
last video about antigen presenting cells-- that either
when a macrophage or a dendritic cell takes things
in, it cuts them up and presents it on its surface as
these MHC II proteins or in complex with these MHC II
complexes or proteins. And so do B cells. B cells are more specific. Now, once something is
presented, now the helper T cell can come into
the picture. So this is a-- let me do a
dendritic cell-- and I'm doing dendritic cells actually on
purpose because dendritic cells are actually
the best cells at activating helper T cells. We're going to talk about in a
second what happens when a helper T cell gets activated. So let's say I have this
dendritic cell. It's called dendritic so
it looks like it has dendrites on it. So I have this dendritic
cell here. It's a phagocyte. Let's say it's already consumed
some type of bacteria or virus and it's cut it up and
now it's presenting kind of the body parts of that virus
on the MHC II complex. It's kind of its way of saying,
hey, I found this shady thing floating around
in the body's tissues. Maybe someone ought
to raise an alarm. Maybe this is part of some type
of bigger thing going on and some type of alarm bell
has to be released. And that's what the helper
T cell does. So let's say this guy--
he's presented it. He says, I found this thing. I killed it. Here's a part of it. The helper T cell has a
T cell receptor on it. Let's say this is the helper
T cell right here. And it has a T cell receptor on
it and the T cell receptors bond to-- and I'll be very
particular here. So this is the T
cell receptor. It's just like a protein, but
like the membrane bound antibodies on B cells that every
B cell or almost every B cell has a different version,
different variable chain, that's also true of helper T
cells-- that just like the B cells, this has some variation
in where it binds. So this right here is going to
be variable from one helper T cell to another. For example, I might have
another helper T cell here. That also has a T cell receptor,
but the variable portion on that T cell receptor
is different than the variable portion on this
T cell receptor. So this helper T cell will not
bind to this dendritic cell or the MHC II complex of
this dendritic cell. Only this one would. And the mechanism of how you
get this variation is very similar to the mechanism in how
you get the variation on the antibodies and
the B cells. During these helper T cells'
development, at some point the genes that code for this part of
this receptor get shuffled around and they get shuffled
around intentionally so that each T cell has a certain
specificity to a combination of an MHC II complex and a
certain polypeptide, a certain part of a virus. So only this guy's going to be
activated, not this guy. So this is why we call it the
specific immune system. Now we said, what does
that helper T cell do at that point? He said, hey, I happen to be the
one helper T cell that can bond to this guy, this antigen
that's presented. It becomes activated. And I won't go into the details,
but in general, dendritic cells are the best
ones at activating it, especially a naive T cell. In general, when we talk about
a naive B cell or a naive helper T cell, these are cells
that are non-memory, non-effector, that have never
been touched by-- they've never been activated, in
the case of a B cell. They've never been activated by
something binding to their membrane bound antibody-- or
a naive helper T cell is a non-effector, non-memory helper
T cell that's never had anything bound to it. So if this guy is naive and then
he finally has a reaction with this antigen presenting
cell, he becomes non-naive. He becomes activated and when
activated, two things happen. Well, just like with B cells,
he proliferates many, many, many copies of himself and some
subset of those copies differentiate into
effector cells. And effector just means
it does something. It does something now instead
of saving the memory. And then some subset of them
become memory helper T cells after getting activated. Now the memory T cells, just
like memory B cells-- now you have more copies of this. So in 10 years in the future,
if something like this happens, this interaction's
going to be more likely to happen. These guys have the same T cell
receptor as their parent. It's just that the memory T
cells-- or actually even the memory B cells-- they
last longer. They don't kill themselves. They'll last for years so that
if 10 years later, something like this starts presenting
itself, you're going to have more of these guys around to
bump into this guy so that you can raise the alarm bells. This guy's also going to have
the same chain right there. So you're saying, fine. I have these memory cells. They're going to stick around
so that this reaction can happen in the future, but I
still haven't answered the question, what does the
effector T cell do? What the effector T cell does
is it raises the alarm. So there's an effector T cell. It has been activated. Remember, this is
very particular. Only this version of T cells,
but once it got activated, it produced many copies of itself
because it says, hey, I'm responding to a particular
type of pathogen. So that this is a
helper T cell. This is an effector. And what these do is they
start releasing these molecules called cytokines. So they start releasing
cytokines. There are many, many different
types of cytokines and I'm not going to go into detail on all
that, but what cytokines do is that they really raise
the alarm. So if you have other activated
lymphatic cells or other activated immunological cells--
when the cytokines enter those cells-- remember,
cytokines are really just proteins. When the cytokines enter-- or
polypeptides-- when they enter those cells, it makes
them get in gear. It makes them multiply more
often or it makes them get more active in their
immune response. So what this does-- these
cytokines you can view as chemical alarm bells chemical
or peptide alarm bells alarm bells it it tells everyone
to get in gear. So that's one role, and so you
can see this is actually a very central role and it'll tell
both activated cytotoxic T cells to get in gear, which
we haven't talked about yet. And it'll also tell B cells
to keep proliferating. So when an activated B cell gets
some of-- so this is an activated B cell. When it gets some of these
cytokines, that maybe come from a local helper T cell,
it'll tell it, hey no, divide more often. Divide more often. Only if you've been
activated already. And we'll talk more about why
it has to be that case, because you don't want all the
B cells to be activated. And the other thing that the
effector T cell does-- in the B cell discussion, I said, OK,
if I have a B cell, and it has its membrane bound
antibody, has its membrane bound antibody. And remember, this is a
particular version, it has its particular variable
chain right here. And this guy binds
to a pathogen. So this binds to a pathogen. Maybe it's a virus
right there. Up to now, I've been saying
that this guy's activated. And he's going to-- well, when
he binds to the pathogen he'll take this in and he'll take part
of the pathogen and cut it up and place it on
an MHC II molecule. And we said, then he'll
be activated. He'll proliferate and he'll
differentiate into memory and effector B cells-- but that's
not quite true. This first stage happens. This guy bonds. This B cell happened to be
specific to this virus. Cuts up the virus. Puts parts of the virus on its
surface and presents parts of the antigen. But in most cases, this B cell
isn't yet activated. You can kind of view it as in
its resting state, ready to be activated, but it hasn't started
proliferating and differentiating into effector
and memory molecules yet. And in order for that to happen,
an activated helper T cell that is also specific to
this very same virus-- so you could imagine someplace else in
the cell-- this virus was eaten by a dendritic cell. So this exact same virus, this
exact same species of virus, is eaten by that dendritic cell
and so the dendritic cell eats it up, it cuts it up, and
then it presents it-- it's antigen presenting so it
presents it just like that. Then this will activate
a very specific T cell, maybe that one. So a very specific T cell will
come and bump into it. Not just any T cell,
the one with the right variable portion. So think about what's
happening. The variable portion for this
T cell, it connects to this part of the virus plus the MHC
II, but it's really reacting to the same virus. It might be a different part. This little part that was cut
off might be someplace inside the virus while the epitope for
the B cell might be some place on the outside of the
virus, but they're both specific to the same virus. Now once this guy gets activated
and he starts producing memory and effector
cells-- or they're descended from him, one of those effector
cells specific to this virus are needed to
come bind to this guy. So then this guy could then go
along and bump around and eventually end up here. And he is also specific
to this virus. So this binding site right
here is the same as this binding site. This combination of antigen
plus MHC II. And so when this guy binds--
and remember, this binding site is the same as this and
it only binds to this combination right here-- this
is what activates the B cell in most cases. This is T-dependent
activation, which is usually the case. Sometimes all you need is this
first thing, but in general you need the first thing and
then you also need a T cell to come and activate it, and only
then will the B cell get activated and start
proliferating and dividing and differentiating itself and
producing-- when its effector cells will produce a
lot of antibodies. And so there's a natural
question. Why do biological systems--
or why do we have this double system? And at least my sense of it is,
it's a failsafe mechanism. If every time a virus came and
attached this, this guy just started going crazy and
producing antibodies against this thing, there's some
chance that maybe after development, this chain right
here or his genes for generating these chains become
specific, not for foreign pathogens, but maybe they
become specific for self molecules, molecules
that are naturally produced within the body. It's just a random mutation, but
if he started going crazy for that, his antibodies will
start attacking molecules that are naturally in the body and
then that could really hurt. That what causes autoimmune
diseases, where your own immune cells start activating
yourself. But if you have this double
handshake system where this has to happen and this has to
happen, the likelihood of both of these guys after they leave
their development stage becoming specific to a self
protein or a self cell or a self molecule is
very unlikely. So it kind of inhibits this guy
from going wild, even if he has some type
of a mutation. Anyway, hopefully that explains
a little bit of what helper T cells do. We'll talk a lot
more about it. I know it can be a little
bit confusing. In the next video, we'll talk
about cytotoxic T cells.