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Course: AP®︎/College Physics 2 > Unit 5
Lesson 3: Electric motorsElectric motors (part 2)
Sal shows that a commutator can be used in order to keep the loop of wire rotating in the magnetic field. Created by Sal Khan.
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- Sal specifically calls the direction of the magnetic force (I cross B) "upwards" , but he denotes it with a circle and dot that I take to mean out of the page towards you- Am I safe in assuming that he means upwards to be out of the page? When I am doing the right hand rule with these directions I get that my thumb is out of the page...(9 votes)
- Yes. I was confused by this also (Video Part 2:& 0:46). Usually "up" and "down" are parallel with the page/screen. He drew the into/out of notation and it would be clearer if he used the same vocabulary as what he drew (apparently "up" means out of the page to Sal). I got the same result as you when I used the right hand rule. 0:49(8 votes)
- Why are split ring commutators used?
(5 votes)- the commutator or split ring is fixed to the coil and rotates with it and when the coil is nearly vertical the forces cannot turn it much further but when the coil overshoots the vertical the commutator changes the direction of the current through it so the forces change direction and keep the coil turning(2 votes)
- Whats the point of having a brush in the motor?(5 votes)
- the brushes are two contacts which rub against the commutator and keep the coil connected to battery or motor they are usually made of carbon(3 votes)
- Why are commutators used instead of split rings?(3 votes)
- commutator are called split ring and it is used in DC motors to rotate the coil in vertical direction
A split - ring commutator (sometimes just called a commutator)
is a simple and clever device for reversing the current direction
through an armature every half turn
The commutator is made from two round pieces of copper,
one on each side of the spindle. A piece of
carbon (graphite) is lightly pushed against the copper
to conduct the electricity to the armature. The carbon
brushes against the copper when the commutator spins.
As the motor rotates, first one piece of copper, then the next
connects with the brush every half turn. The wire on the
left side of the armature always has current flowing in
the same direction, and so the armature will keep turning
in the same direction.
The pieces of copper are held apart in the centre
and do not touch each other. They look like a
ring of copper which is split down the middle
This is why it is called a split - ring commutator.(5 votes)
- whats the difference b/w ac and dc motor?(2 votes)
- Hello Erij,
The DC motor requires a commutator. Think of this is a mechanical switch that activates the correct coils in the motor. This may be done using old school brushes or with electronics. Ref:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutator_(electric)
The AC motor does not require a commutator because the applied AC voltage coupled to physically displaced coils is seen as a rotary magnetic field. Ref:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_motor
Please leave a comment below if you would like to continue the conversation. Know that it takes awhile to visualize what is happening in these motors...
Regards,
APD(4 votes)
- When we talk about the area where the flux goes through, the flux goes through the empty space inside the square, what happens if you have a coil shaped like a cylinder. How do you measure the area? is it the surface area of the wire?(2 votes)
- atisn't the rotation supposed to be in the the opposite direction? If it's going into the page on the left, the rotation should be flipped. 9:12(3 votes)
- What is the moment arm?(2 votes)
- moment arm is simply the length between a joint axis and the line of force acting on that joint.
Every joint that is involved in an exercise has a moment arm. The longer the moment arm is the more load will be applied to the joint axis through leverage. As an example, think of trying to get a nut and bolt apart. If you can’t do it by hand because the moment arm is small, you use a crescent (as shown) which provides you with a much larger moment arm and allows less force (applied by you) to result in much more torque (rotational force) being applied at the nut. This is because torque at an axis is:
Force x Moment arm = Torque
In the exercise examples that follow you'll see the moment arms that work on the hip and knee joints with some common squat variations. Understanding these moment arms will enable you to determine which variations are safe or dangerous and what muscles are working most/least with each variation.(2 votes)
- atyou said that there maybe a little bit angular momentum that keeps the object rotating.if i say that the object moves due to the inertia of rotation does it mean same?i m afraid i have to know more about angular momentum....:( 2:47(2 votes)
- Angular momentum= Moment of Inertia * Angular Velocity
It either gains moment of inertia or angular velocity (I think it is probably angular velocity), so an increase in that will increase angular momentum. I'm not sure whether thats right though :)(2 votes)
- Ok, this is interesting. when the electric motor is running it must be noticed that the bottom wire that connects the two wires which move about and cause necessary rotation is also in the field. By right, it should also be subject to the magnetic force and move about , causing the loop of wire to turn about in the direction perpendicular to the direction of travel.(2 votes)
Video transcript
Where I left off in the last
video we saw that if we had a magnetic field coming in from
the right and we had this loop of-- I guess we call it-- metal
or a circuit, and it's carrying a current where the
current is coming in this direction--. You can imagine positive
protons, although we know the electrons go in the
other direction. But the current is coming in
this direction and going out that direction. We figured out using the right
hand rule and just this formula, that the net force of
the magnetic field coming in this direction on this arm
of the wire or the circuit is net downwards. And on this arm, it
was net upwards. And so it provided a net
torque on this circuit. Or, as I said in the last
video, a paper clip. And where this dotted line
is the axis of rotation. And this is how I showed
you it would rotate. Where the magnetic field is
essentially pushing up on the right hand side and pushing down
on the left hand side. It has no effect over here on
the top and the bottom. So it would rotate in
this direction. And then this was kind of what
it looks like after it rotates a little bit. And the whole reason why I did
this, I said, well, this arm-- which is the same as
this arm-- the net force is still upwards. Out of our screen. But that upwards direction is
now no longer going to be completely perpendicular to
the moment arm distance. That's the moment
arm distance. Now the moment arm distance is
kind of coming at an angle out of the page. So only some of this net outward
force for the magnetic field is going to
be perpendicular to the moment arm. And so the torque on it will be
less, but it's still going to be torque in that
same direction. Kind of coming out of the page
on the right and into the page on the left. And the same is true of
the left hand side. And you go all the way to the
point that the coil is actually vertical. Where this side, this side
right here, is on top. And this side is on bottom,
below the plane of your video screen. And at that point, the torque--
actually, there is no net torque. And why is that? Because on this top part, when
it's pointing straight out at you, when it's right here, the
magnetic field-- the force of it, the force that's affecting
the circuit-- is pushing straight up. So there's no longer any net
torque because the force is pushing straight up and that
moment arm distance-- this distance-- is now also
pointing straight up. And torque is also a cross
product, so you actually care about the perpendicular
forces. So there, at this vertical
point, there's no net torque. And the same is true at the
bottom of the circuit. Because at the bottom the
magnetic field force is going to be downwards, which is
parallel with the moment arm distance, so there's
no net torque. And I said, well maybe there's
a little bit of angular momentum that keeps this
object rotating. And then it will rotate to--
and this is where it gets interesting. I'll draw it neatly. Then it'll rotate
to this point. Once again I want to have
the perspective. It'll rotate here. So let me just make sure
I have all of it. So here it was rotating in this direction and in that direction. And then here maybe some--
there's no longer any torque on it, but it still might on the
top be moving to the left, and on the bottom moving
to the right. Up to a point, then it's going
to get into this configuration where soon. this side is-- so
at this point it has rotated more than 90 degrees. So this edge is now this edge. It had rotated from here all the
way-- it's still pointing out of the screen. But if this edge is the same as
this edge, now the current direction is going
to be like this. Because this edge has
rotated down. So it's rotated from that
position all the way back to this position. So the current is now coming--
let me make sure, let me draw that right. The current is coming like that,
like that, like that. Going up here, to the
right, up like that. So the current now on this left
hand side, although it was the former right
hand side. It's still going in that
upwards direction. So when you take the cross
product, what is going to be the net magnetic
field on that? Or the force of the
magnetic field? Well, you do the same
right hand rule. Point your index finger up. Put your middle finger
in the direction of the magnetic field. This is the palm, this is
your other two fingers. Let me draw the fingernails,
just so they're painted fingernails. Not that mine are. Then your thumb points
upwards. So on this side of the coil we
still have an upwards force. And if you do the cross product,
or you do the right hand rule on the bottom side,
or the behind side, if you could imagine it, you're
still going to have a net downward force. So now all of a sudden
you could imagine-- the thing had rotated. So it had rotated in the way I
drew it here, where it pops out on this side and it
goes in on that side. And it had done it all the way
to the point where we had rotated more than 90 degrees,
but now all of a sudden the net force through the magnetic
field was going to reverse. Because the side that has a
current going upwards is now the left hand side. So now the force from the
magnetic field is out on this side and you're going
to want to rotate in the opposite direction. Hopefully that makes sense. Just think about what happens. Visualize this coil rotating. So what is essentially going to
happen is you're going to rotate like I did
here on the top. Maybe once you get to this level
you're going to have a little bit of angular momentum
that'll keep you rotating. Or rotational inertia that'll
keep you rotating until you're in something like this
configuration. Maybe you go all the way back
to this configuration, where it's essentially a complete
180 degree turn. And then since on this side
the current's going to be going up and on this side the
current's going down, because you've essentially flipped
this thing over, then the effect of the magnetic field is
going to say, well, upwards on the left, downwards
on the right. And so it's going to
turn the other way. So if you think about it, it's
going to keep oscillating. Let me draw it from-- well, I
don't want to draw it from that angle, because I don't
want to confuse you. So we have a problem. If we wanted to turn this into
some type of electric motor and keep it spinning, we would
either have to reverse the current once you get into this
configuration, or either turn off the magnetic field. Or maybe you could reverse the
magnetic field to get it going in the other direction. And actually you have another
problem, which is a slightly lesser problem, is if this was
a circuit and you just kept turning over and over the
circuit, the wires would get twisted here. So you couldn't do
it indefinitely. So the solution here is
something called a commutator. you So let me draw
a commutator. I have the same circuit which
I've now drawn messier. But it has these two leads. It has these leads that
essentially curve. You could imagine them curving
out of the page. And then we have a circuit. You could imagine
leads here, too. And this round thing and this
thing are touching each other the whole time, so current
could pass through it. Let me draw my battery. This is positive and
this is negative. So up here on the circuit the
current's always going to be flowing in this direction. It's always going to be flowing
in this direction, it's always going to be flowing
up and like this. Now when you're in this
configuration, what's going to happen? Well, the current is going
to flow down here. That's going to be I and
that's going to be I. And when you do your right hand
rule, we have the same magnetic field. I haven't changed the magnetic
field coming in from the left. So just like we did before I
cleared the screen, you use the right hand rule and you'll
figure out, well, the net force from the magnetic field
is going to be upwards here and downwards here. And that's what's going to
create that net torque. And you're going to
rotate this part. So this part of this contraption is going to rotate. You could imagine maybe
there's like a little pole here. Maybe it's a nonconducting pole
so that none of the-- and it's connected to an
axle somewhere. So you can rotate along
that axis, right? So the force of the
magnetic field is going to create a torque. We're going to rotate up on this
side, up out of the page on that side, and into the
page on that side. And then behind the page and
then back out of the page. That's what the net
torque would be. And then we would get it, and it
would keep doing that until you get to the vertical
configuration. So at the vertical
configuration, the circuit on the top stays exactly
the same. I'm trying my best to
draw this properly. At the vertical configuration
one of two things can happen, and probably the best thing is
that we actually lose contact with the two leads. So maybe the actual current
stops flowing when we're in the vertical configuration. I'll do it in the same color. So when we're vertical
we just see the top. We see this. And then we see it pops
out a little bit. And then we see this
arm right there. And then we see that pole that's
maybe holding it or that's helping it rotate. But we're still having
some-- you know, the current has ceased. So there's not going to be any
torque, no force through the magnetic field, because we've
lost touch at that point. Because these things
kind of point out. Hopefully you could visualize
how to build such a thing. And we're still rotating in this
direction because of some type of rotational inertia. Then this is what the
interesting part is. What happens when we rotate
more than 90 degrees? And I just realized that I'm
pushing over 10 minutes, so you can think about that a
little bit while I stop here and continue this in
the next video. See