AP®︎/College Physics 2
Electric motors (part 2)
Sal shows that a commutator can be used in order to keep the loop of wire rotating in the magnetic field. Created by Sal Khan.
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- Sal specifically calls the direction of the magnetic force (I cross B) "upwards" , but he denotes it with a circle and dot that I take to mean out of the page towards you- Am I safe in assuming that he means upwards to be out of the page? When I am doing the right hand rule with these directions I get that my thumb is out of the page...(9 votes)
- Yes. I was confused by this also (Video Part 2:0:46&0:49). Usually "up" and "down" are parallel with the page/screen. He drew the into/out of notation and it would be clearer if he used the same vocabulary as what he drew (apparently "up" means out of the page to Sal). I got the same result as you when I used the right hand rule.(8 votes)
- Why are split ring commutators used?
- the commutator or split ring is fixed to the coil and rotates with it and when the coil is nearly vertical the forces cannot turn it much further but when the coil overshoots the vertical the commutator changes the direction of the current through it so the forces change direction and keep the coil turning(2 votes)
- Whats the point of having a brush in the motor?(5 votes)
- the brushes are two contacts which rub against the commutator and keep the coil connected to battery or motor they are usually made of carbon(3 votes)
- Why are commutators used instead of split rings?(3 votes)
- commutator are called split ring and it is used in DC motors to rotate the coil in vertical direction
A split - ring commutator (sometimes just called a commutator)
is a simple and clever device for reversing the current direction
through an armature every half turn
The commutator is made from two round pieces of copper,
one on each side of the spindle. A piece of
carbon (graphite) is lightly pushed against the copper
to conduct the electricity to the armature. The carbon
brushes against the copper when the commutator spins.
As the motor rotates, first one piece of copper, then the next
connects with the brush every half turn. The wire on the
left side of the armature always has current flowing in
the same direction, and so the armature will keep turning
in the same direction.
The pieces of copper are held apart in the centre
and do not touch each other. They look like a
ring of copper which is split down the middle
This is why it is called a split - ring commutator.(5 votes)
- whats the difference b/w ac and dc motor?(2 votes)
- Hello Erij,
The DC motor requires a commutator. Think of this is a mechanical switch that activates the correct coils in the motor. This may be done using old school brushes or with electronics. Ref:
The AC motor does not require a commutator because the applied AC voltage coupled to physically displaced coils is seen as a rotary magnetic field. Ref:
Please leave a comment below if you would like to continue the conversation. Know that it takes awhile to visualize what is happening in these motors...
- When we talk about the area where the flux goes through, the flux goes through the empty space inside the square, what happens if you have a coil shaped like a cylinder. How do you measure the area? is it the surface area of the wire?(2 votes)
- at9:12isn't the rotation supposed to be in the the opposite direction? If it's going into the page on the left, the rotation should be flipped.(3 votes)
- What is the moment arm?(2 votes)
- moment arm is simply the length between a joint axis and the line of force acting on that joint.
Every joint that is involved in an exercise has a moment arm. The longer the moment arm is the more load will be applied to the joint axis through leverage. As an example, think of trying to get a nut and bolt apart. If you can’t do it by hand because the moment arm is small, you use a crescent (as shown) which provides you with a much larger moment arm and allows less force (applied by you) to result in much more torque (rotational force) being applied at the nut. This is because torque at an axis is:
Force x Moment arm = Torque
In the exercise examples that follow you'll see the moment arms that work on the hip and knee joints with some common squat variations. Understanding these moment arms will enable you to determine which variations are safe or dangerous and what muscles are working most/least with each variation.(2 votes)
- at2:47you said that there maybe a little bit angular momentum that keeps the object rotating.if i say that the object moves due to the inertia of rotation does it mean same?i m afraid i have to know more about angular momentum....:((2 votes)
- Angular momentum= Moment of Inertia * Angular Velocity
It either gains moment of inertia or angular velocity (I think it is probably angular velocity), so an increase in that will increase angular momentum. I'm not sure whether thats right though :)(2 votes)
- Ok, this is interesting. when the electric motor is running it must be noticed that the bottom wire that connects the two wires which move about and cause necessary rotation is also in the field. By right, it should also be subject to the magnetic force and move about , causing the loop of wire to turn about in the direction perpendicular to the direction of travel.(2 votes)
Where I left off in the last video we saw that if we had a magnetic field coming in from the right and we had this loop of-- I guess we call it-- metal or a circuit, and it's carrying a current where the current is coming in this direction--. You can imagine positive protons, although we know the electrons go in the other direction. But the current is coming in this direction and going out that direction. We figured out using the right hand rule and just this formula, that the net force of the magnetic field coming in this direction on this arm of the wire or the circuit is net downwards. And on this arm, it was net upwards. And so it provided a net torque on this circuit. Or, as I said in the last video, a paper clip. And where this dotted line is the axis of rotation. And this is how I showed you it would rotate. Where the magnetic field is essentially pushing up on the right hand side and pushing down on the left hand side. It has no effect over here on the top and the bottom. So it would rotate in this direction. And then this was kind of what it looks like after it rotates a little bit. And the whole reason why I did this, I said, well, this arm-- which is the same as this arm-- the net force is still upwards. Out of our screen. But that upwards direction is now no longer going to be completely perpendicular to the moment arm distance. That's the moment arm distance. Now the moment arm distance is kind of coming at an angle out of the page. So only some of this net outward force for the magnetic field is going to be perpendicular to the moment arm. And so the torque on it will be less, but it's still going to be torque in that same direction. Kind of coming out of the page on the right and into the page on the left. And the same is true of the left hand side. And you go all the way to the point that the coil is actually vertical. Where this side, this side right here, is on top. And this side is on bottom, below the plane of your video screen. And at that point, the torque-- actually, there is no net torque. And why is that? Because on this top part, when it's pointing straight out at you, when it's right here, the magnetic field-- the force of it, the force that's affecting the circuit-- is pushing straight up. So there's no longer any net torque because the force is pushing straight up and that moment arm distance-- this distance-- is now also pointing straight up. And torque is also a cross product, so you actually care about the perpendicular forces. So there, at this vertical point, there's no net torque. And the same is true at the bottom of the circuit. Because at the bottom the magnetic field force is going to be downwards, which is parallel with the moment arm distance, so there's no net torque. And I said, well maybe there's a little bit of angular momentum that keeps this object rotating. And then it will rotate to-- and this is where it gets interesting. I'll draw it neatly. Then it'll rotate to this point. Once again I want to have the perspective. It'll rotate here. So let me just make sure I have all of it. So here it was rotating in this direction and in that direction. And then here maybe some-- there's no longer any torque on it, but it still might on the top be moving to the left, and on the bottom moving to the right. Up to a point, then it's going to get into this configuration where soon. this side is-- so at this point it has rotated more than 90 degrees. So this edge is now this edge. It had rotated from here all the way-- it's still pointing out of the screen. But if this edge is the same as this edge, now the current direction is going to be like this. Because this edge has rotated down. So it's rotated from that position all the way back to this position. So the current is now coming-- let me make sure, let me draw that right. The current is coming like that, like that, like that. Going up here, to the right, up like that. So the current now on this left hand side, although it was the former right hand side. It's still going in that upwards direction. So when you take the cross product, what is going to be the net magnetic field on that? Or the force of the magnetic field? Well, you do the same right hand rule. Point your index finger up. Put your middle finger in the direction of the magnetic field. This is the palm, this is your other two fingers. Let me draw the fingernails, just so they're painted fingernails. Not that mine are. Then your thumb points upwards. So on this side of the coil we still have an upwards force. And if you do the cross product, or you do the right hand rule on the bottom side, or the behind side, if you could imagine it, you're still going to have a net downward force. So now all of a sudden you could imagine-- the thing had rotated. So it had rotated in the way I drew it here, where it pops out on this side and it goes in on that side. And it had done it all the way to the point where we had rotated more than 90 degrees, but now all of a sudden the net force through the magnetic field was going to reverse. Because the side that has a current going upwards is now the left hand side. So now the force from the magnetic field is out on this side and you're going to want to rotate in the opposite direction. Hopefully that makes sense. Just think about what happens. Visualize this coil rotating. So what is essentially going to happen is you're going to rotate like I did here on the top. Maybe once you get to this level you're going to have a little bit of angular momentum that'll keep you rotating. Or rotational inertia that'll keep you rotating until you're in something like this configuration. Maybe you go all the way back to this configuration, where it's essentially a complete 180 degree turn. And then since on this side the current's going to be going up and on this side the current's going down, because you've essentially flipped this thing over, then the effect of the magnetic field is going to say, well, upwards on the left, downwards on the right. And so it's going to turn the other way. So if you think about it, it's going to keep oscillating. Let me draw it from-- well, I don't want to draw it from that angle, because I don't want to confuse you. So we have a problem. If we wanted to turn this into some type of electric motor and keep it spinning, we would either have to reverse the current once you get into this configuration, or either turn off the magnetic field. Or maybe you could reverse the magnetic field to get it going in the other direction. And actually you have another problem, which is a slightly lesser problem, is if this was a circuit and you just kept turning over and over the circuit, the wires would get twisted here. So you couldn't do it indefinitely. So the solution here is something called a commutator. you So let me draw a commutator. I have the same circuit which I've now drawn messier. But it has these two leads. It has these leads that essentially curve. You could imagine them curving out of the page. And then we have a circuit. You could imagine leads here, too. And this round thing and this thing are touching each other the whole time, so current could pass through it. Let me draw my battery. This is positive and this is negative. So up here on the circuit the current's always going to be flowing in this direction. It's always going to be flowing in this direction, it's always going to be flowing up and like this. Now when you're in this configuration, what's going to happen? Well, the current is going to flow down here. That's going to be I and that's going to be I. And when you do your right hand rule, we have the same magnetic field. I haven't changed the magnetic field coming in from the left. So just like we did before I cleared the screen, you use the right hand rule and you'll figure out, well, the net force from the magnetic field is going to be upwards here and downwards here. And that's what's going to create that net torque. And you're going to rotate this part. So this part of this contraption is going to rotate. You could imagine maybe there's like a little pole here. Maybe it's a nonconducting pole so that none of the-- and it's connected to an axle somewhere. So you can rotate along that axis, right? So the force of the magnetic field is going to create a torque. We're going to rotate up on this side, up out of the page on that side, and into the page on that side. And then behind the page and then back out of the page. That's what the net torque would be. And then we would get it, and it would keep doing that until you get to the vertical configuration. So at the vertical configuration, the circuit on the top stays exactly the same. I'm trying my best to draw this properly. At the vertical configuration one of two things can happen, and probably the best thing is that we actually lose contact with the two leads. So maybe the actual current stops flowing when we're in the vertical configuration. I'll do it in the same color. So when we're vertical we just see the top. We see this. And then we see it pops out a little bit. And then we see this arm right there. And then we see that pole that's maybe holding it or that's helping it rotate. But we're still having some-- you know, the current has ceased. So there's not going to be any torque, no force through the magnetic field, because we've lost touch at that point. Because these things kind of point out. Hopefully you could visualize how to build such a thing. And we're still rotating in this direction because of some type of rotational inertia. Then this is what the interesting part is. What happens when we rotate more than 90 degrees? And I just realized that I'm pushing over 10 minutes, so you can think about that a little bit while I stop here and continue this in the next video. See