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Political: Race and the Carceral State

Why do people see mass incarceration as a racial problem? What does race have to do with incarceration and what does either have to do with philosophy?

Speaker: Olufemi Taiwo, UCLA.

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  • leaf green style avatar for user Tomasz Stachowiak
    Much as I applaud addressing this difficult problem, I don't think it belongs with the rest of the philosophy videos in this section. For one it is too specific - about present day USA problems. Perhaps it deserves its own separate directory, where is could be expanded?
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  • leaf red style avatar for user Noble Mushtak
    How can education play a role in allowing people to change perspectives on the role of modern-day race in incarceration?

    I think now, we denounce segregation throughout our education system in order to make sure that later generations don't start it up again and I think that's a good thing. Maybe we should start healthy, tolerant discussions about race in our classrooms, especially in places with racial tension. In my school, we have debates about current event issues. I don't think we should push on people left-wing and liberal values of standing up to racism because that would a lot of people uncomfortable, but I do think we should talk about it in mature middle school and high school settings. Does anyone have any other thoughts on how education could affect this issue? Does anyone think there might be a good chance that such discussions in classrooms with racial tensions could break out into fights or is that improbable or preventable if we have our discussions in the right way?
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    • male robot donald style avatar for user Ernest
      We can have these discussions but they also need to be part of our Overall Societal discussions. The problem we have today is that our communities are way too divided on these types of issues. We are raised in this way and we learn to take a side on an issue depending on what area we grew up in. All of these areas are divided along things like Ethnicity, Politics, Social Class and other ideologies that shape and influence our beliefs on everything else. And also a very Important thing to remember is that the Media, Politicians, different Organizations all can benefit from a societies problems in different ways so that is why you will often see different Media outlets or Politicians taking complete opposite sides on an issue and spreading this message to their followers therefore furthering the division.

      We need to somehow begin these discussions early on in our Educational systems and societies. We need to teach everyone about our Similarities rather than about always focusing on trivial Differences. We all need the same things in life. We all want to be Happy, Safe & Healthy and we should Only be satisfied when Everyone has this in their lives. So it needs to all start from the beginning. We need a New way of looking at things and how to find solutions for them. It's a Huge Educational Reform that will have to happen over time with Many different discussions had to try and Chip Away at this Giant Divisive Cloud always hanging over us to ever have a chance at coming Together and discussing these topics in a more Sympathetic & Tolerant fashion.
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  • aqualine ultimate style avatar for user c2j
    Is the cause of hyper-policing really racial-stigma?
    To me it seems like racial-stigma is merely a byproduct of the racial inequalities that persist in the "circle of hyper-policing".
    It starts out with poverty, poverty creates more crime, more crime creates more policing and more incarceration. While incarceration does not help poverty, I wouldn't consider it the main cause of poverty. Poverty was racially unequal to begin with.
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  • starky ultimate style avatar for user Averatu
    Definitions based on race or culture are rarely useful when thinking about self identity.
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  • aqualine tree style avatar for user CC Alexander
    This is excellent and pertinent information for Politics...esp since the laws of policing, media and other intricacies all effect not only the political process...it affects the social and economic processes as well....Thank you for taking something so difficult and explaining it under 6 minutes.
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  • female robot grace style avatar for user tw486364
    I agree with the restructuring of the system. Michigan has the highest rate of wrongful convictions, yet women are overlooked in the exoneration process. It's systemic injustice that goes back to the framing of America.
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Video transcript

(intro music) I'm Olufemi O. Taiwo. I'm a graduate student in philosophy at UCLA, and today I'll be talking about race and the carceral state. We often use racial terms like "white" and "black." Sometimes we mix these terms with ones about ethnicity and geographic descriptions, like nationalities. But ethnicity is primarily defined by intergroup social definition, and nationality is defined by citizenship. And these don't always conform to the visual classifications we might expect. Someone who's, for example, Latina could look like this or like this. And someone from Asia could look like this or like this. We often use race to describe what someone looks like, and so you might think that race is something intrinsic to a person's body or identity, since your body looks the same everywhere. But actually, it's more complicated. For example, here we might identify this person as some kind of exotic ethnicity, which isn't exactly race. But the same person in, say, Brazil might be called "white." So we need a definition of race that accounts for how it travels, as Ronke Oke describes it: how racial expectations and conceptions change based on which social environment we're in. Falguni Sheth's explains race this way: as a technology that works as a mode or vehicle of division, separation, hierarchy, as opposed to, say, a description of a set of natural kinds to categories. What's important is that race isn't fundamentally about what individual people are, but about what this identity category does for a state or other managerial organization. Jason Stanley uses the term "managerial state" to refer to a government where things are organized around efficiency, defined and organized around the interests and perspectives of the managers, or the people in charge. This is an important term in a world globally organized around money, influenced by how markets are regulated and constructed. The leaders of world governments aren't always themselves businesspeople, but get lots of input in their decision-making by various interests. One way by which the technologies of race and incarceration manage is by way of the threat of incarceration, policing, and criminalization of movement. All of these have disciplinary effects. Racist stigmas might convince us to accept and perpetuate treatment of some people of color as inherently criminal, most obvious in the American political context by the epithet "thug" for black men, and the disproportionate labeling of migrants from Central and South America as "illegals." This might prime us to accept their mass incarceration, detention, and deportation as unproblematic, while also priming those targeted populations to view it as expected. Douglas Massey and Ta-Nehisi Coates have examined the ways in which now hyper-policed communities were constructed geographically by interlocking policies, particularly around housing and zoning. This concentrates poverty and, as a result, crime which will then seem to justify the disproportionate policing of those spaces. Loic Wacquant notes the ways in which impoverished communities and prisons structurally inform each other, which has wide-reaching social consequences. At least some of those features seem to have been articulated clearly through artistic means, from the poetry of The Watts Prophets in the 60s to the music of recent decades, like Illmatic Illadelph Halflife, The New America parts one and two, and Black Messiah. We can make two conclusions. One, the justifications for hyper-policing are sociologically circular. Two, if we have a problem with crime, we're probably not going to find a solution anywhere in this circle. We can view this question pessimistically or optimistically. If we're pessimists, there might be nothing we can do. Maybe all we can end up doing is shifting around who is included, who is excluded, and various ways of parsing violent identities. But maybe there's reason for optimism. If we think we live in genuine democracy, then race might only function as a technology if enough people are disposed to accept the marginalization of their fellow citizens on, ultimately, racial grounds. Chris Lebron has noted that this crucially involves an issue of national character, or the kind of nation a country would like to be. That is, this presents both a challenge and an opportunity. Changing a nation's character comes down to more than proving facts or winning specific electoral battles. It comes down to motivating everyone to do the tough work of restructuring systems. Subtitles by the Amara.org community