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Lesson 3: Robert Schumann: Symphony No. 3 "Rhenish"- Robert Schumann: Symphony No. 3, "Rhenish". Analysis by Gerard Schwarz (part 1)
- Robert Schumann: Symphony No. 3, "Rhenish". Analysis by Gerard Schwarz (part 2)
- Robert Schumann: Symphony No. 3, "Rhenish". Analysis by Gerard Schwarz (part 3)
- Robert Schumann: Symphony No. 3, "Rhenish". Analysis by Gerard Schwarz (part 4)
- Robert Schumann: Symphony No. 3, "Rhenish". Analysis by Gerard Schwarz (part 5)
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Robert Schumann: Symphony No. 3, "Rhenish". Analysis by Gerard Schwarz (part 1)
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- What exactly is the Coda?(0 votes)
- Not necessarily...a codetta follows the exposition, while the coda is a reprise of the codetta, assuming you mean sonata-allegro form. The "Jump" from a coda to another is usually the second being a tag coda, meaning that the underlying harmonic structure alternates from tonic to dominant repeatedly to form an authentic cadence.(0 votes)
- he talks about the Sonata Allegro Form. What is a Sonata exactly? Is it different from other forms or scores of music in a symphony? 5:10(3 votes)
- Sonata is a large chamber music piece (even if there are only two players, e.g. viola and piano, it is called chamber music in this case. However, there also Sonatas only for one instrument as well), which consists usually of 4 movements. They are also rather typical:
Allegro - "slow movement", e.g. Adagio - Scherzo (very typical) - Finale
The form of the first one you already know from the good description byViola
. You may also omit Allegro and just say Sonata Form. Allegro probably refers to the fact that first movements could be often Allegro but actually shouldn't.
So Sonata has its typical form as well, but when musicians talk about Sonata Form it refers actually to the form of the first movement. Maybe it might be a bit confusing...
P.S. This form was very often used in Symphonies as well.(1 vote)
- Hello
Sorry to bother you with this question butt what happens when one of a violin's strings broke do they have to start over?
please and thank you(2 votes)- In orchestra when they can't stop, the concertmaster, the violinist who leads the whole orchestra, is the most important violinist so if his/her's violin strings break, the second violinist (person next to concertmaster) will give his violin to her, then the third violinist to the second, and so on. Same goes if there is a soloist. Then, the concertmaster will give his/her violin to the soloist, second to concertmaster, so on. Hopefully, I worded that all right.(3 votes)
- What would happened it a clarinet would break or a violinists stick breaks?(1 vote)
- They would have to replace their clarinet or bow most likely, if the damage is beyond repair. But you'd have to try very hard to break a clarinet or a bow, and I wouldn't suggest doing so, especially if it is expensive.(2 votes)
- Why do they call development a session(2 votes)
- Atit talks about rhythmic ambiguity. Why is rhythmic ambiguity used? 2:35(1 vote)
- Does any one recons that music in the part of the video were it is atpart of the video! 6:59(1 vote)
- After looking at your explanation in the comments: Most likely the music has been used in a film, or several. I would be very surprised if there weren't snippets of it in the film "Geliebte Clara" (Beloved Clara) which portrays the Schumanns while Robert was working on this symphony. The film Willow, apparently, uses a motif from the Rheinish.(1 vote)
- Where can I find the whole video of the orchestra? I think it is not on the site.(0 votes)
- Search it on YouTube. You might not find the exact video but it'll be similar topic.(4 votes)
Video transcript
("Symphony No. 3" by Robert Schumann) - Robert Schumann's life wasn't easy. From an early age he had this depression, and he had occasional voices, and there were moments
throughout his life, from his 20s on that he felt this way, and he often thought
of committing suicide. It shows in his music too,
especially the later music. Some of it, it's very inconsistent. Schumann was looking towards becoming music director for an orchestra. He received the invitation to be the music director in Dusseldorf. He had already composed two symphonies. He had done the first version of what became the Fourth Symphony and now he's working
on the Third Symphony. The order of symphonies
is always interesting. For example, Beethoven's
five piano concertos, the first one was written second, and the second was written first, but they were published
in the opposite way. The same thing with Schumann symphonies. His fourth symphony was written first, then the third, but then
he revised the fourth, so the fourth was published
after the third, and so forth. Schumann's Third Symphony
is called the Rhenish, or the Rhine Symphony. The Rhine was important in Schumann's life on many levels, in fact,
he tried to kill himself by throwing himself into the Rhine. The Rhenish Symphony was written during his time in Dusseldorf, and inspired by a trip
to the Cologne Cathedral. At that time it wasn't
finished but it was magnificent and that had a tremendous impact on them and this symphony, of
course, was to a large extent inspired by a trip that Clara and Robert made in 1850 on the Rhine. The first movement has one of those long, extended, gorgeous
Schumann melodies. It is so beautiful. The opposite of the Beethoven
fifth motive, it goes on. ("Symphony No. 3" by Robert Schumann) It has a great deal of rhythmic ambiguity, which means even though it
may be written in three, sometimes it sounds like it's
played in groups of twos. And this ambiguity of rhythm made it actually more interesting, and eventually, of course,
it would always fit into it. But Mozart did this, Beethoven
did this, they all did, but Schumann did it in a remarkable way and this melody just soars so beautifully, and then it gets repeated. Towards the end of the melody, he has this little coda, which becomes important as we
go later on into the movement. After that, he repeats
the same material again and this time he has the horns soaring in the middle of the orchestra. The second theme is wistful,
and light, and soft. It's first stated by the woodwinds, then the strings, then the
woodwinds join in again. He goes back to the initial first theme. This is a typical sonata-allegro form. We've talked about it before. The exposition, first theme,
the contrasting second theme, and then sometimes that
whole section is repeated, in Schumann's case it isn't, and then he moves to
the development section. And sometimes people call it a fantasy because the composer's are
using their imagination and what Schumann does is he uses all the themes in
constantly evolving ways. As glorious as the beginning
is, and as heroic as it sounds, through his development section, it is at times very dark
and somewhat uncertain. Then, of course, he inserts
the initial material, and at one point he has this
great section for the horns, where the orchestra makes a crescendo, and then it disappears, and the strings are playing
fast tremolo pianissimo and the horns playing
fortissimo play this melody, while everybody's in the background. Then the trumpets join in. And the horns join in. And then, boom, we're
into the recapitulation. Not dissimilar from Beethoven, even though this is very
quick sonata-allegro form, the coda is quite extended. And Schumann does a
tremendous amount of contrast, especially dynamically, with
a theme being played forte and then a quick response piano. And it ends in a very heroic nature. Again, with the horns and
trumpets leading the orchestra.