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### Course: 4th grade > Unit 2

Lesson 3: Subtracting multi-digit numbers# Multi-digit subtraction: 389,002-76,151

Subtract 389,002-76,151 using the standard algorithm.

## Want to join the conversation?

- is there any more methods(23 votes)
- Yes! There’s a Vedic (Indian) method of subtraction.

We subtract one column at a time. When the bottom number is bigger we subtract in the reverse order but put a bar over the digit in the answer. Bar digits can be thought of as negative digits!

We then convert from bar digits to a normal number using the following steps:

1) For each group of one or more 0’s (if any) immediately to the left of a group of one or more bar digits, we also put bars on those 0’s.

2) For each group of bar digits after the previous step:

a) We subtract “all from 9 except last from 10”.

b) We take away 1 from the digit immediately to the left of the group of bar digits.

This might seem hard to understand at first, but it should become easier to understand when you read the example below.

Example: 676,354,508 - 146,378,168.

We could go right to left, or left to right. Let’s go left to right.

From left to right:

6-1 = 5.

7-4 = 3.

6-6 = 0.

3-3 = 0.

5-7 = 2bar (because 7-5 = 2).

4-8 = 4bar (because 8-4 = 4).

5-1 = 4.

0-6 = 6bar (because 6-0 = 6).

8-8 = 0.

So we have 5 3 0 0 2bar 4bar 4 6bar 0.

We now need to convert to a normal number.

1) We have a group of two 0’s immediately to the left of the group of bar digits 2bar 4bar. So we put bars on these two 0’s.

So we now have 5 3 0bar 0bar 2bar 4bar 4 6bar 0.

2) We have the two groups of bar digits 0bar 0bar 2bar 4bar, and 6bar.

For the group 0bar 0bar 2bar 4bar:

a) 9-0 = 9.

9-0 = 9.

9-2 = 7.

10-4 = 6.

b) The 3 immediately to the left of this group becomes a 2.

For the group 6bar:

a) 10-6 = 4.

b) The 4 immediately to the left of this group becomes a 3.

Note that the 5 on the far left and the 0 on the far right both stay as is.

The final answer is 529,976,340.

Have a blessed, wonderful day!(67 votes)

- this is more confusing than addition(25 votes)
- I must admit, yes at times it is more confusing than addition but if you can get the methods and get used to it, it is really really easy(7 votes)

- can you answer me 😭(4 votes)
- 317,225 - 199,114 , while solving this problem, What I did was that I was easily able to subtract Hundreds, Tens and ones of both the numbers.

But, When I was subtracting 317 - 199, I thought of regrouping differently i.e. I subtracted 1 from 317( Which made it 316) and added that 1 to 199 ( To make it 200) , so that now the problem becomes 316 - 200.I well aware that answer would not be correct, but I am curious to know why? Why this step is not correct? What is mathematically wrong about the step that I had taken here. Someone please clarify. :) Regards and thank you.(3 votes)- You had a good idea for a strategy, but you misunderstood the strategy. You confused a strategy for subtraction with a strategy for addition. Subtracting 1 from the top number and adding 1 to the bottom number each make the answer 1 less, overall making the answer 2 less than the correct answer. Think about it: if you have less money to start with and the price of the thing you want to buy goes up, you would end up with less, not the same amount of, money left over.

What you needed to do was to add 1 instead of subtracting 1 from the top number. Starting off with 1**more**would compensate for taking 1 more away. So you needed to do 318 - 200.

Have a blessed, wonderful day!(5 votes)

- what is 197.8546,6 -987654321987654321(4 votes)
- Nanananana make some noise make some noise if u know ur blessed if not let me bless u w the knowledge of my chemical romance or also known as mcr(3 votes)
- Does it work if u just subtract like use ur brain to just subs tract it like is still correct?(3 votes)
- it herds my brain(3 votes)
- what do you mean(2 votes)
- I've been having a little trouble with doing multi-digit subtraction problems, especially carrying.

I somewhat understand but i'm getting a familiar report and I still have a little bit of difficulty getting answers. Does anyone have any helpful tips?(1 vote)- Just keep watching the videos and keep practicing.(3 votes)

## Video transcript

- [Instructor] What we're
gonna do in this video is figure out what 389,002 minus 76,151 is. Like always, I encourage
you to pause the video and try to figure it out on your own. That's the best way to really, even if you're not able to figure out, or if you get a different answer, then when I work through it with you it will really stick in
your brain that much more. Alright, now let's work
through it together. The way I'm gonna do
it is sometimes called the standard method or
the standard algorithm, algorithm being a fancy word for a method. What I'm gonna do is
first write the 389,002. 389,002. And I'm subtracting 76,151. You notice the first thing that I did is I aligned the digits to
the appropriate place value. I put the ones below the ones. The 10s below the 10s,
the 100s below the 100s, the 1,000s below the 1,000s, the 10,000s below the
10,000s, so on and so forth. And now we're ready to subtract. So the first thing we might do is well, let's look at the ones place. Here I have two ones, and
I'm gonna take away one one. So I'm gonna be left with one one. That was pretty straightforward. But then things get a
little bit more difficult when we get to the 10s place. How do I take five 10s from zero 10s? So let me just not think
about that for a second, but I have the same
problem in the 100s place. How do I take away one 100 from zero 100s? Now when I go to the 1,000s place, I can take away six
1,000s from nine 1,000s, but before I do that what
I want to do is regroup so that I don't have zeros here so that I can take away from
the 100s and the 10s place. And so what I can do is I
can rewrite nine 1,000s, so I'm gonna take away
one of those 1,000s, so I'm gonna have eight 1,000s. And I'm gonna regroup it as 10 100s. So this can be that
1,000 would be 10 100s. Now that solves a problem,
except for the 10s place. But what I can then do
is I could take away one of those 100s so I
only have nine 100s now, and I could regroup that
extra 100 as 10 10s. So as 10 10s. And now I can keep subtracting. So in the 10s place, 10 10s
minus five 10s, is five 10s. I go to the 100s place,
nine 100s minus 100 is 800. I go to the 1,000s place. 8,000 minus 6,000 is 2,000. And then I can go to the 10,000s place. This is essentially eight 10,000s, or 80,000 minus 70,000
is going to be 10,000. One 10,000. And then last but not least,
I have my three 100,000s. So there you go. We're done. This is 312,851. This is the standard method. I started at the ones place. Sometimes it's good to just do a check to make sure every digit on
top in the appropriate place is at least equal to the digit that you're subtracting from it. And so you can do the
regrouping ahead of time. But either way, you will end
up with a similar process.