- Conditions for valid confidence intervals for a proportion
- Conditions for confidence interval for a proportion worked examples
- Reference: Conditions for inference on a proportion
- Conditions for a z interval for a proportion
- Critical value (z*) for a given confidence level
- Finding the critical value z* for a desired confidence level
- Example constructing and interpreting a confidence interval for p
- Calculating a z interval for a proportion
- Interpreting a z interval for a proportion
- Determining sample size based on confidence and margin of error
- Sample size and margin of error in a z interval for p
Check conditions, calculate, and interpret a confidence interval to estimate a population proportion.
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- When calculating the standard error, is it better to calculate the unbiased standard deviation of the sample and divide that by the positive root of the sample size,
here sqrt( (30*(0.4)^2 + 20*(0.6)^2) / 49 / 50) = 0.0699854...,
or use the formula of the standard error of the sample distribution, using p hat as an estimate of p ?
here sqrt(0.4 * 0.6 / 50) = 0.0692820...
The two don't give the same result. Sal uses both methods in different videos without saying why, so some extra explanation would be helpful!(31 votes)
- I'm not an expert, but I think Sal used the incorrect formula in this video.
One thing I did notice is that 30 * 0.4^2 + 20 * 0.6^2 / 50 = 0.4 * 0.6. So while the formulas look very different, if you replace the 49 in the first equation with a 50 they will produce the same answer(1 vote)
- How do we decide what method to use to estimate the Standard Error.
Method 1) Perform correction. So standard error = sqrt(p hat * (1- p hat) / (n-1) )
Method 2) Do not perform correction. Standard error = sqrt(p hat * (1- p hat) / n )(24 votes)
- It's worth noting that the 'correction' here is incorrect. The actual correction would be to first find the sample standard deviation:
S = SQRT(n * p-hat * (1- p-hat)/(n-1))
then the unbiased Standard Deviation of the Sample Distribution of p-hat is:
Std deviation of p-hat = S/SQRT(n).
As others below point out, whenever population parameters are unknown, it's probably best to use the correction method to avoid bias. I'll happily defer to any experts who can give a more valid explanation.(1 vote)
- what is the difference between s/sqrt(n) vs sqrt(p*(1-p)/n)? I believe this is the same formula but not too clear why this is the case and when to used each.(3 votes)
- Why Does it matter if the equation is independent or not?(2 votes)
- If our sampled trials are not independent then that means each successive trial will not necessarily be equivalent. Because of this, our inferences could be skewed to the right/left because our "supposed" probability will be overestimate/underestimating the real value.
Hope this helps,
- Convenient Colleague(1 vote)
- What ment was why did Sal make it 99.5% with the 0.50% above and not below the middle 99%?(1 vote)
- Many Z-tables show the area under the curve from -inf up to a point, so if we want to have 99% confidence, it means we want to have 0.5% area left at the left and right side. See also4:33(2 votes)
- When we find z*, why can't we just find that by multiplying the standard deviation by 3? (99 percent is 3 standard deviations in a normal distribution.) In this case, couldn't we just multiply the standard error by 3? I did this, but I didn't get the right answer.(1 vote)
- Since we have to use an estimate of the population standard deviation, rather than the actual population standard deviation, shouldn't we be using the t-statistic rather than the z-statistic?(1 vote)
- Why didn't he use the value of .9901 from the table if he wants 99% confidence? Why did he choose what he did from the table?(1 vote)
- Z scores give the area below a point on a curve, so if we want the critical z score for 99 percent confidence, we want the z score that gives the area under that curve, and includes that 99 percent, which, if normal distributions weren't symmetrical, would be, the z score for 0.99, but since normal distributions are symmetrical, we have the piece that is not included in the 99 percent split between both sides, which means that we would need to subtract the other side because, z scores give area, under a point.
I hope this answered your question(0 votes)
- [Instructor] We're told that Della has over 500 songs on her mobile phone, and she wants to estimate what proportion of the songs are by a female artist. She takes a simple random sample, that's what SRS stands for, of 50 songs on her phone and finds that 20 of the songs sampled are by a female artist. Based on this sample, which of the following is a 99% confidence interval for the proportion of songs on her phone that are by a female artist? So like always pause this video and see if you can figure it out on your own. Della has a library of 500 songs right over here. And she's trying to figure out the proportion that are sung by a female artist. She doesn't have the time to go through all 500 songs to figure out the true population proportion, p. So instead she takes a sample of 50 songs, n is equal to 50, and from that she calculates a sample proportion, which we could denote with p hat. And she finds that 20 out of the 50 are sung by a female, 20 out of the 50 which is the same thing as 0.4. And then she wants to construct a 99% confidence interval. So before we even go about constructing the confidence interval, you wanna check to make sure that we're making some valid assumptions or using a valid technique. So before we actually calculate the confidence interval, let's just make sure that our sampling distribution is not distorted in some way, and so that we can with confidence make a confidence interval. So the first condition is to make sure that your sample is truly random. And they tell us that it's a simple random sample, so we'll take their word for it. The next condition is to assume that your sampling distribution of the sample proportions is approximately normal. And there you wanna be confident or you wanna see that in your sample you have at least 10 successes and at least 10 failures. Well here we have 20 successes which means well 50 minus 20, we have 30 failures. So both of those are more than 10, and so meets that condition. And then the last condition is, sometimes called the independence test or the independence rule or the 10% rule. If you were doing this sample with replacement, so if she were to look at one song, test whether it's a female or not and then put it back in her pile and then look at another song, then each of those observations would truly be independent. But we don't know that. In fact we'll assume that she didn't do it with replacement. And so if you don't do it with replacement, you can assume rough independence for each observation of a song if this is no more than 10% of the population. And so it looks like it is exactly 10% of the population, so Della just squeezes through on our independence test right over there. So that out of the way let's just think about what the confidence interval's going to be. Well it's going to be her sample proportion plus or minus, there's going to be some critical value, and this critical value is going to be dictated by our confidence level we wanna have, and then that critical value times the standard deviation of the sampling distribution of the sample proportions which we don't know. And so instead of having that, we use the standard error of the sample proportion. And in this case it would be p hat times one minus p hat all of that over n our sample size, all of that over 50. So what's this going to be? We're gonna get p hat, our sample proportion here, is 0.4 plus or minus, I'll save the z star here, our critical value for a little bit. We're gonna use a z-table for that. And so we're gonna have 0.4 right over there, one minus 0.4 is times 0.6 all of that over 50. So we can already look at some choices that look interesting here. This choice and this choice both look interesting, and the main thing we have to reason through is which one has a correct critical value. Do we wanna go 1.96 standard errors above and below our sample proportion? Or do we wanna go 2.576 standard errors above and below our sample proportion? And the key is the 99% confidence level. Now if we have a 99% confidence level, one way to think about it is, so let me just do my best shot at drawing a normal distribution here. And so if you want a 99% confidence level, that means you wanna contain the 99%, the middle 99%, under the curve right over here, that area. And so if this is 99%, then this right over here is going to be 0.5%, and this right over here is 0.5%. We want the z value that's going to leave 0.5% above it. And so that's actually going to be 99.5% is what we wanna look up on the table. And that's because many z-tables, including the one that you might see on something like an AP Stats exam, they will have the area up to and including, up to and including, a certain value. And so they're not going to leave this free right over here. So let's just look up 99.5% on our z-table. All right, so let me move this down so you can see it. All right that's our z-table. Let's see we're at 99. okay it's gonna be right in this area right over here. And so that is 2.5, looks like 2.57, or 2.5, 2.58 around that. And so this right over here is about 2.57, it's between 2.57 and 2.58, which gives us enough information to answer this question. It's definitely not going to be this one right over here. We have 2.576, which is indeed between 2.57 and 2.58. So let's remind ourselves, we've been able to construct our confidence interval right over here. But what does that actually mean? That means that if we were to repeatedly take samples of size 50 and repeatedly use this technique to construct confidence intervals, that roughly 99% of those intervals constructed this way are going to contain our true population parameter.