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## Algebra 2

### Course: Algebra 2 > Unit 8

Lesson 3: Properties of logarithms- Intro to logarithm properties (1 of 2)
- Intro to logarithm properties (2 of 2)
- Intro to logarithm properties
- Using the logarithmic product rule
- Using the logarithmic power rule
- Use the properties of logarithms
- Using the properties of logarithms: multiple steps
- Proof of the logarithm product rule
- Proof of the logarithm quotient and power rules
- Justifying the logarithm properties

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# Using the logarithmic power rule

CCSS.Math:

Sal rewrites log₅(x³) as 3log₅(x). Created by Sal Khan and Monterey Institute for Technology and Education.

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- How do you do log2 -1(24 votes)
- This is undefined, because you cannot raise power to 2 in order to get -1.(6 votes)

- I'd like to see a step by step solution to the following equation: 5^(3x+2)=3^(4x-1) solve for x(9 votes)
- log 5^(3x+2) = log3^(4x-1)

(3x+2)log5 = (4x-1)log3

3xlog5 + 2log5 = 4xlog3 - log3

3xlog5 - 4xlog3 = -2log5 - log3

x(3log5 - 4log3) = -(2log5+log3)

x = -log75 / (3log5 -4log3)(40 votes)

- what's log2(2x) - log2x^3 = 5 ?(6 votes)
- simple just follow these steps!

1)log2(2x)-log2(x^3)=5 write in the form that is logbX-logbY=logbX/Y;

then this will become log2(2x/ (x^3) )=5

2)log2(2/x^2)=5

3) 2^5=2/x^2 => 32=2/x^2

= 32x^2=2

= x^2=1/16

= x=1/4 .....final answer;

10Q(5 votes)

- What happens if you have logarithms involving imaginary or complex numbers?(6 votes)
- Since you can't use normal methods to evaluate the log, you would need to resort to things like Euler's Formula and Demovire's Theorem.(9 votes)

- at about3:30, the instructor states that (a^b)^d=a^bd. How is it possible for the exponent to shift down a degree?(3 votes)
- This is how exponents work. It doesn't shift it down a degree. Here are a few cases and examples:

(2^3)^2=8^2=64

(2^3)^2=2^(3*2)=2^6=64 (2^1=2,2^2=2,2^3=8,2^4=16,2^5=32,2^6=64)

(3^2)^3=9^3=729

(3^2)^3=3^(2*3)=3^6=729 (3,9,27,81,243,729)

This is not unlike what happens when you multiply two numbers with the same base raise to different powers. In that case you add the exponents:

2^2*2^4=2^(2+4)=2^6=64

2^2*2^4=4*16=64

Good question. It is confusing at first, but when you get the hang of it, it's not too hard.(6 votes)

- Having a problem what is log(1000)= 4.605? This problem doesn’t seem to make sense to me and many of the problems following are similar(2 votes)
- log (1000) = 4.605 is an equation, not an expression. You can't solve an equation without any variables. Did you meant that the base of the logarithm was unknown?(2 votes)

- And yet another doubt I stumbled upon while exercising:

Give the domain of

f(x)=log(base3)(4x-3)^2

First solution:

2*log(base3)(4x-3)

4x-3>0

x>3/4

Second solution:

log(base3)(4x-3)^2

(4x-3)^2>0

x different than 3/4

Why is the first solution wrong?(2 votes)- The domain depends on the positioning of the square, but your notation is ambiguous.

If you meant: f(x) = log₃[(4x-3)²]

Then the domain is x≠ ¾ because that value would lead to a log of 0. The square makes sure we never get a negative value for the argument.

If you mean f(x) = {log₃[(4x-3)}² which is usually written as log²₃ (4x-3) then:

As before x≠ ¾ due to being a log of 0. However, you are squaring the entire log, not just the argument. Thus, the argument can be negative, and the log of a negative number is not real, so that is outside the domain. Thus, the domain is

x > ¾

Again, please remember, the property log (aⁿ) = n log (a) ONLY APPLIES if a > 0. Therefore, you shouldn't use this property with variables that might lead to the argument being negative because that may lead to extraneous solutions.(2 votes)

- How would you solve 6 log x=-3 ?(2 votes)
- Okay I'll show you the solution.

6log(x) = -3 →This the problem we are given

log(x) = -3/6=-1/2 → I divided both sides by 6

10^log(x) = 10^(-1/2) →Raised both sides by base 10

x = 10^(-1/2) → Since the base of log is 10, 10^log(x)=x, and we are done. We now know the value of x.

Take note that log(x ) = log10(x). If you see a log without a specified base, you can automatically assume that its base is 10.(2 votes)

- If a= log12 base 24 , b= log24 base36 , c=log36 base 48 , then value of (1+abc)/bc equals to ?(1 vote)
- I think that the answer is 2. Here's why.

Let a = log_24 (12) , b = log_36 (24), c = log_48 (36)

First, since neither b or c are zero, I would simplify ( 1 + abc ) / bc to ( 1 / bc) + a.

= 1 / (log_36 (24 ) * log_48 (36) ] + log_24 (12)

Now use the change of base rule to get base 10 logs for everything.

1 / [ ( log24 / log36 ) * ( log36 / log48 ) ] + log12 / log24

= ( log48 / log24 ) + ( log12 / log24 )

= ( log48 + log12 ) / log24

= log (48*12) / log24

= log (24*24) / log24

= ( log24 + log24 ) / log24

= 1 + 1

= 2

Any questions?(3 votes)

- Would it be possible to solve something like "2 log4(9) - log2(3)" even though they don't have the same base numbers?(2 votes)
- Yes, you can change the logs so that they have the same base. Log base 4 of 9 is like saying: "4 raised to x is equal to 9" Well, you can replace 4 with 2^2 and you will get (2^2)^x=9, which simplifies to 2^(2x)=9. Therefore, log base 2 of 9 is 2 times log base 4 of 9 (which we represented with x). Now you can replace log base 4 of 9 with (1/2)*log base 2 of 9 in the original problem and you will have the same bases, allowing you to apply other logarithm rules.(1 vote)

## Video transcript

We're asked to simplify log
base 5 of x to the third. And once again, we're
just going to rewrite this in a different way. You could argue whether it's
going to be more simple or not. And the logarithm
property that I'm guessing that we should use
for this example right here is the property-- if I take
log base x of-- let me pick some more letters here, log
base x of y to the zth power. This is the same thing as
z times log base x of y. So this is a logarithm property. If I'm taking the logarithm
of a given base of something to a power, I could take
that power out front and multiply that times
the log of the base, of just the y in this case. So we apply this
property over here. And in a second, once
I do this problem, we'll talk about why this
actually makes a lot of sense and comes straight out
of exponent properties. But if we just apply
that over here, we get log base 5
of x to the third. Well, this is the
exponent right over here. That's the same thing as z. So that's going to
be the same thing as-- let me do this
in a different color-- that 3 is the same thing-- we
could put it out front-- that's the same thing as 3 times
the logarithm base 5 of x. And we're done. This is just another way of
writing it using this property. And so you could argue that
this is a what-- maybe this is a simplification
because you took the exponent outside
of the logarithm, and you're multiplying the
logarithm by that number now. Now with that out of
the way, let's think about why that
actually makes sense. So let's say that we
know that-- and I'll just pick some arbitrary
letters here-- let's say that we know that a
to the b power is equal to c. And so if we know
that-- that's written as an exponential equation. If we wanted to
write the same truth as a logarithmic equation, we
would say logarithm base a of c is equal to b. To what power do I have
to raise a to get c? I raise it to the bth power. a to the b power is equal to c. Fair enough. Now let's take both sides of
this equation right over here, and raise it to the dth power. So let me make it--
so let's raise-- take both sides of this equation
and raise it to the dth power. Instead of doing
it in place, I'm just going to
rewrite it over here. So I wrote the original
equation, a to the b is equal to c, which is just
rewriting this statement. But let me take both sides
of this to the dth power. And I should be consistent. I'll use all capital letters. So this should be a
B. Actually, let's say I'm using all
lowercase letters. This is a lowercase c. So let me write it
this way, a to the-- so I'm going to raise
this to the dth power, and I'm going to raise
this to the dth power. Obviously, if these two things
are equal to each other, if I raise both sides
to the same power, the equality is
still going to hold. Now, what's
interesting over here is we can now say--
what we could do is we can use what we know
about exponent properties. Say, look, if I have
a to the b power, and then I raise
that to the d power, our exponent properties say
that this is the same thing. This is equal to
a to the bd power. This is equal to a to the bd. Let me write it here. This is-- let me do that
in a different color. I've already used that green. This right over
here, using what we know about exponent
properties, this is the same thing as
a to the bd power. So we have a to the bd power
is equal to c to the dth power. And now this
exponential equation, if we would write it as
a logarithmic equation, we would say log base a of c to
the dth power is equal to bd. What power do I have to raise
a to get to c to the dth power? To get to this? I have to raise it
to the bd power. But what do we know that b is? We already know that b is
this thing right over here. So if we substitute
this in for b, and we can rewrite
this as db, we get logarithm base a of c to
the dth power is equal to bd, or you could also call that
db, if you switch the order. And so that's
equal to d times b. b is just log base a of c. So there you have it. We just derived this property. Log base a of c
to the dth, that's the same thing as
d times log base a of c, which we applied
right over here.