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Course: Europe 1300 - 1800 > Unit 10
Lesson 2: Neoclassicism- Neoclassicism, an introduction
- David, Oath of the Horatii
- David, Oath of the Horatii
- David's Oath of the Horatii Quiz
- Jacques-Louis David, The Death of Socrates
- David, The Lictors Returning to Brutus the Bodies of His Sons
- David, Study for The Lictors Bringing Brutus the Bodies of his Sons
- Jacques-Louis David, The Death of Marat
- David and The Death of Marat
- David, The Intervention of the Sabine Women
- David, Napoleon Crossing the Alps
- Kauffmann, Cornelia Presenting Her Children as Her Treasures
- Girodet, The Sleep of Endymion
- Marie-Guillemine Benoist, Portrait of Madeleine
- Canova, Repentant Magdalene
- Canova, Paolina Borghese as Venus Victorius
- Vignon, Church of La Madeleine
- Soufflot, The Panthéon, Paris
- David, The Emperor Napoleon in his Study at the Tuileries
- J. Schul, Portrait of a Lady Holding an Orange Blossom
- Neoclassicism
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David, Oath of the Horatii
Jacques-Louis David, Oath of the Horatii, oil on canvas, 1784 (Musée du Louvre). Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.
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- Is the story that this painting depicts true?(7 votes)
- The source for this story comes from Livy who wrote about it 650 years after it supposedly happened. Historians are skeptical that the story is true. It was probably a popular legend in Rome meant to explain Rome's domination over the rest of the Latins and to explain the origins of of some old monuments and tombs found around Rome. There was a family (gens) Horatia in ancient Rome, and they no doubt helped spread this legend.(15 votes)
- Are the figures in the paintings to perfect scale and anatomically correct? If so, how was the artist able to do that? Was the camera obscura in use then?(4 votes)
- David had trained at the Royal Academy in France before going to Rome where he continued to advance in his ideas. He would have been experienced in drawing correctly first from plaster casts and then from the nude. In this case, David worked from live models and draped mannequins and created detailed studies for the composition as was his method. In this way he advanced the principles of the 17th century Poussinistes, the followers of Poussin, who believed that drawing, not color or brushwork, was the foundation of great art.(9 votes)
- Neoclassicism seems to really stress the political side of the Enlightenment. Are there any neoclassical paintings that stress the academic side of Enlightenment?(4 votes)
- Please look at the work of Wright of Derby, Experiment on a Bird and A Philosopher Lecturing at an Orrery, etc.(6 votes)
- Were the Horatii real people or were they imagined for stories and poems?(5 votes)
- The Horatii were Legendary triplets from Rome who fought triplets from Alba Longa in order to end the war between the two cities.(2 votes)
- AtDr Zucker makes the comment that the theme is "sexist"? Why? When I view the painting I don't see that at all, rather these women were expressing emotions common, even today, for men going to war, more than likely not coming home. Please have Dr Zucker explain why he views compassion for ones sons, nephews or cousins as a "sexist" ideal? 2:50(3 votes)
- He makes no comment about "sexist" at. Go to 2:50and listen to her synopsis of the contrast between the left and right sides of the painting. 4:40
The left side are strong warriors with a right and patriotic cause. They are standing and armed. The right said is bathed in more light highlighting a curved arm with children and weeping individuals.
It so happens that the contrast between personal feelings and patriotism is along gender lines. Is that sexist? Probably, but not necessarily. After all, the legend has it that the wife/sister was ultimately killed.(8 votes)
- What does “The Oath of the Horatii” tell us about what Romans valued in their society?(1 vote)
- The painting reveals far more about late 18th century France than it does about the founding of Rome.(6 votes)
- Atthe speaker says that the painting was made in 1784, but the captions say 1984. I assume that this is just a typo? 0:17(2 votes)
- You assume correctly. Computer generated subtitles are notoriously bad. Even ABC, the company that owns Google and Youtube (ane much else in the western world) says not to trust them.(3 votes)
- This painting was exhibited in the Salon before the revolution. What was the initial reaction to it by people in 'the establishment', high up in the social order that was about to be overthrown? Did they view it as a criticism of the morality of the old order, and if so was it regarded as dangerous or controversial? Did they expect a revolution to happen and were they concerned the painting could be seen as a direct call to arms?(2 votes)
- It was regarded as promoting patriotism.(2 votes)
- Who's hand is that on the guy closest to use?(2 votes)
- I guess it's the right hand of the man in the middle. He has his left hand up for the vow (you can see his thumb if you look carefully) and his right hand around the wrist of his brother.(1 vote)
- When people commission paintings, do they ask for it to be about a particular subject? Would the king have been skeptical about the meaning of the painting?(2 votes)
Video transcript
(mellow piano music) - [Dr. Steven Zucker] We're
standing in one of the largest galleries in the Louvre in Paris. It's filled with enormous paintings. We're looking at Jacques-Louis David's Oath of the Horatii. This was a painting that was made in 1984 and exhibited in 1785 and
this painting stole the show. It was absolutely new,
nobody had every seen anything like it. - [Dr. Beth Harris] The
prevailing style in France was the Rococo. We could think about artists
like Boucher or Fragonard, a style that applied to the aristocracy. - [Steven] And even in the
kind of history painting that was made for the king,
the style had become formulaic, it had become tired but
David's Oath of the Horatii establishes a new style
that we call Neoclassicism. - [Beth] Critics like Diderot
are calling for an art that depicts virtuous behavior,
very different from the prevailing Rococo style and
this painting answers that call. - [Steven] This is the tale
end of the period in France that we call the Enlightenment
with philosophers like Rousseau, Diderot and
Voltaire who posset the idea that the rational should
supersede tradition and the spiritual. - [Beth] The church was
incredibly powerful, the monarchy in France
was incredibly powerful and the philosophers of the
Enlightenment are asking questions about the validity of these very established institutions. - [Steven] And remember it
will only be a few years before the French Revolution begins. - [Beth] Right, this is exhibited in 1785, the revolution is 1789. - [Steven] And the American
Revolution has already taken place, based in
large part on the ideas of French Enlightenment philosophers. - [Beth] We have a story from
early Ancient Roman history. - [Steven] The early Roman
state is at war with the neighboring city of Alba. - [Beth] But instead of
the armies of each side going to war, they decide
to sent three brothers from each side to battle it out. Whoever survives is the
side that's victorious. - [Steven] The Romans chose the Horatii, and the city of Alba chooses the Curatii. - [Beth] But things get
very complicated because there are intermarriages
between these two families. So no matter who wins. - [Steven] Both sides will lose. - [Beth] Exactly. - [Steven] What we see is
the father of the Horatii holding swords aloft as
the sons take an oath to battle to the death. - [Beth] For Rome. - [Steven] On the right we see
three women and two children. There's some disagreement
as to who the woman in blue is in the back. - [Beth] We see two young
women in the foreground. One of them is a Curatii
sister and she's married to one of the Horatii brothers. - [Steven] The other is a
Horatii by birth but will marry one of the Curatii. - [Beth] Families will be
torn apart by this battle. - [Steven] No matter what happens. - [Beth] By making the
women appear so curvilinear, so passive, they don't
even have their eyes open, David is suggesting an idea
that was very prevalent in the philosophy of
Rousseau, for example, that women could not be
true citizens of the state, they were unable to think
about civic responsibility. Women could only think about
the personal and the familial. - [Steven] And look at how David
has depicted that contrast. If the women are curvilinear,
if their bodies are limp, the male figures are rigid,
they are upright, they are tall, they are strong. - [Beth] They are angular in
the forms of their bodies. They raise their arms together. There's a sense of purpose
that is completely absent from the women who
appear to be just victims of circumstance here. - [Steven] The young men
are working in unison. Their arms salute in unison. There is clearly a reverence
for the idea of strength in a kind of brotherhood,
in a kind of collective. - [Beth] David represents
all of this in a classical, classicizing style, looking
back to Ancient Greece and Rome. There is an interest in
the anatomy of the body, of carefully depicting the
musculature, the movement of the body that is
directly from Ancient Greek and Roman art. - [Steven] In fact, the
lighting, which rakes across the surface, reminds me of
an Ancient Greek or Roman relief carving and all of this
is set within a simplified stone interior with rounded roman arches, simplified Tuscan columns
and a pavement that creates a geometric stage for these figures. - [Beth] And if we follow
the orthogonal lines created by that pavement,
we end at a vanishing point. - [Steven] Right where the
father's hand clasps the swords. - [Beth] If we think about the
lushness, the luxuriousness of Rococo painting, to me this painting is the exact opposite. It's one that speaks of
the virtue of simplicity over the the indulgence
of the Rococo style. Exactly what the Enlightened
philosophers were calling for artists to do. - [Steven] And audiences
recognized that stark contrast. In fact the Salon had to
stay open longer than had originally been scheduled
just to accommodate the numbers of people that wanted to see it. - [Beth] One of the most
fascinating things about this painting is that during the
revolution, the brothers and their willingness
to die for their country resonates with the
revolutionaries who must make sacrifices of themselves
and their families for the ideals of the revolution. - [Steven] And David does
become a revolutionary himself and so it's very tempting to
read back into this painting but we have to remember that
the painting was completed several years before the
revolution, although it was certainly informed by the
same philosophical values that the revolution was founded on. - [Beth] David not only
becomes a revolutionary, he votes for the beheading of the king. We're talking about an artist who was very politically engaged. - [Steven] And this
painting becomes an icon for the revolution. - [Beth] When I look at
this painting, I sense that patriotic fervor that
must have been so palpable in the early years of the
revolution when people were able to rise up against
the abuses of a monarchy and to begin to imagine
a republic for France. (mellow piano music)