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Lesson 2: Sculpture and architecture in central Italy- Brunelleschi & Ghiberti, the Sacrifice of Isaac
- Brunelleschi and Ghiberti, Sacrifice of Isaac (quiz)
- Ghiberti, "Gates of Paradise," east doors of the Florence Baptistery
- Brunelleschi, Old Sacristy
- Brunelleschi, Dome of the Cathedral of Florence.
- Brunelleschi, Dome (quiz)
- Brunelleschi, Pazzi Chapel
- Brunelleschi, Pazzi Chapel
- Brunelleschi, Santo Spirito
- Nanni di Banco, Four Crowned Saints
- Orsanmichele and Donatello's Saint Mark
- Donatello, Saint Mark
- Donatello, St. Mark (quiz)
- A soldier saint in Renaissance Florence: Donatello's St George
- Donatello, Feast of Herod
- Donatello, Madonna of the Clouds
- Donatello, David
- Donatello, David
- Donatello, David (quiz)
- Donatello, The Miracle of the Mule
- Donatello, Equestrian Monument of Gattamelata
- Donatello, Mary Magdalene
- Andrea della Robbia’s bambini at the Ospedale degli Innocenti, Florence
- Alberti, Palazzo Rucellai
- Alberti, Palazzo Rucellai
- Alberti, Palazzo Rucellai
- Alberti, Façade of Santa Maria Novella, Florence
- Alberti, Sant'Andrea in Mantua
- Michelozzo, Palazzo Medici
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Donatello, Saint Mark
Donatello, St. Mark, 1411-13, marble, 93" (236 cm), Orsanmichele, Florence Speakers: Dr. Steven Zucker and Dr. Beth Harris. Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.
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- Is that a quatrefoil on Saint Marks gospels at? I remember this shape form video "Brunelleschi & Ghiberti, The Sacrifice of Isaac". Why is it so important to Florence? Does it have symbolic meaning? 4:30(4 votes)
- who invented this Gothic movement and why has it become so popular at this epoque?(4 votes)
- "Gothic" was called "French style". It was invented by a man called "l'Abbé Suger" for his baptistry of Saint Denis near Paris, from 1132 to 1144. He was a powerful man and the regent of the kingdom. He was trying to find a solution to build higher an luminous buildings. Then, he finds the solution :
- intercepting ribs
- equilateral arches
- flying buttress
Gothic style was developed inside the kingdom and different solutions were found according to the particularities of each regions.
Then, Gothic been so popular starting from the 1200's because of the importance of French Kingdom and Saint Louis and raised as "international style" in the 1300's.(4 votes)
- Atthey say that Ghiberti's St. Stephen and other statues lack expression, and are more generic in a way, compared to St. Mark. Wouldn't it be because of the medium? As far as I know Ghiberti's bronze statues were cast in one go, while Donatello's stone sculptures could be developed much more carefully? Also, St. John the Baptist by Ghiberti is, at least to me, extremely expressive and detailed in the face. Can St. Stephen really be seen as a representative example of Ghiberti's ability as a sculptor in comparison to Donatello? I think St. George by Donatello is just as limited in expression as Ghiberti's St. Stephen because of their youth, and more superficially, due to the lack of detailed, dramatic facial hair. 4:00(4 votes)
- Yes,I think that is because of their different material.
If they used the same material, it may have been very similar.(2 votes)
- We have learned in videos way back in the ancient section that sculpture made from marble and the like would have been painted in many brilliant colors...would this also hold true for the sculpture coming out of the renaissance?(1 vote)
- If I remember correctly, Renaissance sculpture was not painted. I suspect that this was the case because the ancient statues which were unearthed at that time and heavily influenced Renaissance sculpture, had already lost their coat of paint. As the techniques we now use to detect traces of pigment (like ultraviolet light) were not available in the Renaissance, they probably simply did not know that the Greeks and Romans painted their sculpture. So, when they imitated Ancient sculpture, they imitated the ancient sculpture they knew: pristinely white statues.(4 votes)
- how old was donatello when he created saint mark(1 vote)
- How did Donatello gain access to information on classical sculpture? Would he have had books on the techniques of Greek and Roman sculpture to inspire him? Or would his inspiration come purely from his own studies on classical statues?(1 vote)
- Most likely he studied the actual classical statuary. It was common for apprentice artists to make stone copies of classical statuary, as well as draw them, in an effort to understand the craft.(2 votes)
- so why were [people obsessed with godly figures?(1 vote)
- Was this sculpted from a single block of marble?(1 vote)
- Saint Mark, and other sculptures, were intended to be displayed in the niches, which are some 10-12 feet above the sidewalk. So, I believe that the artist would have taken into account the perspective the viewer would have, tailoring the work to be viewed from 10 feet below. First, is my assumption correct, and if so, can you notice distortions when you view them from a relatively level perspective inside the building?(1 vote)
- At, they said Saint Mark has "contrapposto". What does that mean? 1:30(1 vote)
Video transcript
(jazzy music) Male: We're on the second floor of Orsanmichele and here,
one after the other, are all the monumental sculptures that had once filled the niches outside. Female: It's important to remember that Orsanmichele is in many
ways the place that the Renaissance began in Florence. It began in this space that had both a secular function as a granary but also a spiritual function. Male: It's also a church. Female: These were sculptures commissioned by the guilds and so it makes sense that these first Renaissance sculptures would be commissioned not by a church, but by guilds, by these
secular organizations. Male: Okay, so let's
take one as an example. One of the important guilds in the city were the linen workers. We're standing in front of St. Mark, which is this monumental
sculpture by Donatello. We know it's for the linen workers because he is standing on a pillow presumably made of linen. Female: Right. If we
think about him outside in that niche and imagine walking by him, you could almost imagine this way that you would relate to him; that you could engage with him right on the streets of Florence, this sense of civic pride of
bringing beauty to the city. Male: There really is a sense of immediacy here. This is Donatello's brilliance. Here we have a figure
that is, first of all, reviving the Classical
in really important ways. This is a figure that is an incredible early expression of contrapposto that hasn't been seen with this kind of understanding for 1,000 years. Female: If we look at so
many of the other figures that were created for Orsanmichele, they still have that
Gothic sway to the hips. What Donatello give us instead is something that looks very much like an ancient Roman sculpture. Male: Look, for instance, at the hips that push to his right. Over the engaged leg, you have the cloth falling in perfect unbroken lines, almost as if that's the
floating of a Classical column. It's on the other side that you can see the knee breaking the cloth. You can really get a sense,
even though it's under this heavy drapery, you still understand the movement of the body,
the turn of the spine, the turn of the hips,
the axis of the knees. Female: Donatello's
borrowing this directly from ancient Greek and Roman sculpture. There's no other place he
could have goten this from. The figure, because of the contrapposto, really looks alive. He looks like he can truly walk. His feet are firmly planted on the ground. The sense that the weight is shifting gives the sense that he
could walk at any second. We have an idea of sculpture beginning to be separate from the architecture, even though he was in a niche and he was intended for the architecture. The contrapposto, the sense of movement, gives us a sense of his autonomy from the architecture. Male: But it's also the
authenticity of his experience. So it's a revival of the Classical, not only in terms of the
mechanics of the body, but also in terms of the
experience of the individual. You said a moment ago we would walk down the street and see this figure in a niche. There would be an immediate
kind of relationship. Yes, that's true, but at the same time he's seeing further. He's also seeing past us. Female: Right. It's this bringing together of the spiritual and the
human so close at this moment in the early 15th century in Florence. Male: Look at the face. There's a kind of intelligence, there's a kind of internal focus, there's a kind of awareness that is just piercing. He's thinking, he's reflecting on the Gospels that he
holds so easily at his side and perhaps he's about
to speak them to us. There is this way in which our eyes are drawn up through the plainer quality of the drapery to the
more focused handling of the stone near the
beard, near his eyes, look at that furrowed brow, so that he is somebody
that we can understand and approach in some real way. Female: You know, the sculptures like the ones by Ghiberti that are more in that high Gothic style, the
face is often more plain and less individualized, and our focus goes on those decorative
forms in the drapery. Male: It's distracted, in a sense. Female: Exactly, so we don't have that human to human connection
that we're getting here. Here, instead of focusing on the drapery, although the drapery is fabulous, we look directly at the face and we see the furrowed brow, the eyes that gaze out, the beard that animates his face and makes it seem even more thoughtful, his receding hairline. Then we look down at his hands and we can see that Donatello has clearly been thinking about human anatomy. Those are not just
generalized shapes for hands but a sense of bone and muscle and veins. Then down to the feet firmly
planted on the ground. When the Florentines looked up at St. Mark as they walked, they looked up at him and saw a figure that ... Male: It ennobled. Female: That ennobled them. They looked at St. Mark
and could have a sense of their own profound
dignity as human beings, as Florentines in the early 15th century. In a way, St. Mark is a mirror. Male: Isn't that exactly what this notion of civic pride that was
so tied in to 15th century Florence was really about? This notion that we can
rise to our own ideals. Female: We can be like the ancient Romans and be virtuous and ... Male: Shake off the
corruption of the Medieval and in a sense return to the greatest that man had once known. (jazzy music)