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Europe 1300 - 1800
Course: Europe 1300 - 1800 > Unit 9
Lesson 2: Italy- Restoring ancient sculpture in Baroque Rome
- Bernini, Pluto and Proserpina
- Bernini, David
- Bernini, David
- Bernini, David
- Bernini, Apollo and Daphne
- Gian Lorenzo Bernini, Baldacchino
- Bernini, Bust of Medusa
- Bernini, Ecstasy of Saint Teresa
- Bernini, Ecstasy of Saint Teresa
- Bernini, Ecstasy of Saint Teresa
- Gian Lorenzo Bernini, Cathedra Petri (Chair of St. Peter)
- Bernini, Saint Peter's Square
- Bernini, Sant'Andrea al Quirinale
- Geometry and motion in Borromini's San Carlo
- Annibale Carracci, Landscape with the Flight into Egypt
- Carracci, Christ Appearing to Saint Peter on the Appian Way
- Caravaggio, Narcissus at the Source
- Caravaggio, Calling of Saint Matthew
- Caravaggio, Calling of St. Matthew
- Caravaggio, The Conversion of St. Paul (or The Conversion of Saul)
- Caravaggio, Crucifixion of Saint Peter
- Caravaggio, Supper at Emmaus
- Caravaggio, Deposition
- Caravaggio, Saint John the Baptist in the Wilderness
- Caravaggio, The Flagellation of Christ
- Caravaggio, Death of the Virgin
- Caravaggio and Caravaggisti in 17th-Century Europe
- Guido Reni, Aurora
- Artemisia Gentileschi, Judith Slaying Holofernes
- Gentileschi, Judith and Holofernes
- Gentileschi, Judith and Her Maidservant with the Head of Holofernes
- Gentileschi, Conversion of the Magdalene
- Elisabetta Sirani, Portia Wounding her Thigh
- Guercino, Saint Luke Displaying a Painting of the Virgin
- Il Gesù, including Triumph of the Name of Jesus ceiling fresco
- Pozzo, Saint Ignatius Chapel, Il Gesù
- Pozzo, Glorification of Saint Ignatius, Sant'Ignazio
- The altar tabernacle, Pauline Chapel, Santa Maria Maggiore, Rome
- Pierre Le Gros the Younger, Stanislas Kostka on his Deathbed
- Baroque art in Italy
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Pozzo, Glorification of Saint Ignatius, Sant'Ignazio
Fra Andrea Pozzo, Glorification of Saint Ignatius, ceiling fresco in the nave of Sant'Ignazio, Rome, 1691-94
Speakers: Dr. Beth Harris & Dr. Steven Zucker. Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.
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- Amazing. Was this painted by one person??(15 votes)
- Most likely not. The same principle of economics of today apply back then: the longer a project takes, the more it will cost. First, the patron had to pay the wages of the artists, carpenters and laborers, as well as the costs of the materials.
Second, many artists had to compete to find a patron / sponsor not only through talent and artistry, but also through pricing. In harmony with the guild system, many master artists had a company of apprentices who would work for and train under the master artist. These apprentices would have many jobs to do: setting up the working space, preparing the medium, etc. By doing so, the apprentices would learn valuable aspects of the trade as well as quicken the time required to finish the project. As the apprentice would grow in skill, his responsibilities would increase: the master artist would allow those most skilled apprentices to paint backgrounds, foregrounds and/or paint the base of figures. The master artist would then paint the details, etc.
Now, could you imagine having one man (the master artist) set up the scaffolding, go to the markets and buy the materials, prepare the work surfaces, paint all the non-vital scenery and then pain the details within the same amount of time as a master artist and his apprentices would require? A one-man company would not be very economical and the costs would be much higher than the costs of one master artist with "cheap" apprentices!
So in sum: no, this is most likely the product of many talented men under the guidance of a master artist who would paint the most essential parts, leaving the rest for his company to complete.(17 votes)
- Dr. Zucker and Dr. Harris, do you two write down what you are going to say before you describe a painting or is this all impromptu? Sometimes it seems impromptu and other times it seems so fluid in how you two switch back and forth that I cannot begin to tell....(8 votes)
- Our discussions are always impromptu though sometimes we are more successful and sometimes less. We do however do considerable reading ahead of time to be sure we are aware of the most recent scholarship and we edit the audio before we put the video together. This allows us to tighten things up.(14 votes)
- What material was used in the painting?(3 votes)
- The materials are usually listed just above the video. As with most ceiling painting in Italy at this time, the Pozzo is fresco.(5 votes)
- Was this painted on a flat ceiling?(3 votes)
- Amazingly, yes! Pozzo truly added awesome detail to this painting.(3 votes)
- Atthey said god was full of movement but Jesus isn't god right. Sorry I don't know much about God or Jesus. 4:12(1 vote)
- there like an apple theres the skin the flesh and the core(1 vote)
- I can't even imagine the time spent planning before the painting was even started. Did the patron have any input as to what the final end product would be? I'd think the planning alone would be more than a year or more. Is there an estimate as to how much time was spent in the planning?(2 votes)
- When was this painted? I didn't catch a date or even a year/range.(1 vote)
- This illusionistic style mural is called Quadratura, and it is painted di sotto in su, which means as seen from below.(1 vote)
- This is the ceiling fresco of the nave, by Pozzo, but how does it relate to the other fresco by Gaulli, "The Triumph of the Name of Jesus"? I assume they are in different places. Where precisely is the latter?(1 vote)
- It's also in the nave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Battista_Gaulli#Works
Gaulli's nave masterpiece, the "Triumph of the Sacred Name of Jesus" (also known as the Worship, Adoration, or Triumph of the Holy Name of Jesus), is an allegory of the work of the Jesuits that envelops worshippers (or observers) below into the whirlwind of devotion.(1 vote)
- Is this whole painting representing some books in the Bible like Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel?Or is this just about Saint Ignatius?(1 vote)
Video transcript
(lighthearted music0 Male Voiceover: We're
standing on a small circle of yellow stone in the middle of the floor of the nave of Saint Ignatius in Rome, and we're looking up at
a miraculous ceiling. Female Voiceover: It really is miraculous. As we look up, we see the architecture,
the plasters, the columns. The colored marble of the nave
walls continue up into the ceiling, and it looks so real, but
we know that it's paint. Male Voiceover: That transition between the actual stone architecture
and the painted surface, it seems that its rise up infinitely
into the heavens is imperceptible. I can't always make out where
one stops and one begins. Female Voiceover: No, it's impossible. Male Voiceover: Even
when the artist, Pozzo, is rendering figures that
we know are simply paint, for instance, the angels,
there is a kind of veracity, there's a kind of physicality,
even as they hover. Look, for instance, at the red angel. That wing is simply coming towards us. Female Voiceover: We know that
the figures have to be paint because they're not
actually flying around, but it's almost impossible not
to be absorbed into this illusion that we're looking up at Saint Ignatius being welcomed into
heaven by Christ himself. Male Voiceover: Well, this is the point, that this erasure of the distinction between our physical world and
the miraculous world of heaven, this brings us into proximity with
the divine in the most direct way. Female Voiceover: Well, it's as though where a heavenly miracle
is appearing before us as though we are having
a spiritual vision. Male Voiceover: This is
the counter-reformation. The Jesuits are at the
center of the attempt by the Catholic church
to reclaim their primacy. They're with the defenders and the
propagators of the Catholic faith. Female Voiceover: Right, the
idea of defending the faith against the Protestants at this moment, and also areas of the world
that were not Christianized, and bringing them into
the fold of the church, enhancing the power of the church. Male Voiceover: In
fact, Pozzo, the artist, has really made that clear by representing the four great continents of the earth, Asia, the Americas, Europe, and Africa; and so this notion of the
expansion of Catholicism to be come this universal truth
is central to this painting. Female Voiceover: That was really what Loyola's intention was in
founding the Jesuit order. Male Voiceover: What we
have in this painting is a reminder of just how
important it was to reassert the Catholic faith's
belief in the miraculous. Female Voiceover: As we
stand in the [neath], I almost feel my body
rising toward the ceiling, because as we look up, we see figures who are also moving toward heaven, and I think that's something
that [proregard] always does weather we're looking at
Caravaggio, or Bernini, or here with Pozzo, is
breaking down that barrier between our world and the
world of the heavenly. Male Voicoever: In fact, what you describe is expressed directly
by the artist, Pozzo, in a letter where he details what
the intent of this painting was. Female Voiceover: He wrote
about how he represented rays sent from heaven, caught in a shield inscribed with the name of
Jesus, used to light the flames of divine love in a golden cauldron, used to be distributed by angels. On the opposite side of the vault, avenging angels threaten those
who resist the light of faith with divine wrath in the form
of thunder bolts and javelins. I think that this quote show us the
two sides of the counter-reformation. One is to reaffirm the
faith of those who believe, and the other is to attack those
who went against the church. Male Voiceover: Just as the
narrative of the painting describes the intention of the Jesuits, the style of the painting
is a beautiful description of the concerns of the Baroque. Look at the sense of energy,
the sense of theatricality, the sense of movement, the dynamism. You were mentioning the avenging angel, and look, for instance, at
the diagonal of that javelin. There's nothing in this
painting that is static; even God is full of movement. Female Voiceover: That's absolutely true. Even the clouds are
moving before us as though we were looking up into a real
sky with wind and atmosphere. Male Voiceover: So, the Baroque borrows the naturalism of the High Renaissance, but activates it and
puts it to a new purpose, which is here, the reaffirming
of the Catholic faith. Female Voiceover: We've
reached a natural end point that began with the
invention of perspective and the illusion that perspective creates, beginning with Masaccio's Holy Trinity. Here we stand in one point in the church and that whole illusion
comes together for us and merges the physical
with the spiritual. Male Voiceover: An important point
of the art and the architecture is the blur the lines between
reality and the miraculous, and to make possible
the divine in our world, to make it seem as if we can pass
easily from one to the other. Metamorphosis is central here; the metamorphosis of
the soul is in a sense represented through the
metamorphosis of material. Female Voiceover: As we
walk through the church after looking up at the ceiling, I find myself questioning the reality
of the space I'm walking through. I start wondering if
it, too, is an illusion. (lighthearted music)