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Lesson 4: Percussion- Timpani: Interview and demonstration with principal Jauvon Gilliam
- Piano (as orchestral instrument): Interview and demonstration with Kimberly Russ
- Percussion: Interview and demonstration with principal Chris Devine and members of the percussion section
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Percussion: Interview and demonstration with principal Chris Devine and members of the percussion section
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- What is the instrument at? 1:50(4 votes)
- That is a gong. There are various types of gongs, but I believe this type, being used in this way, is called a "tam-tam". Colloquially you might hear it called a "Chinese gong", but that's a little too general. I'd call it a "tam-tam" formally or else just a gong.(8 votes)
- Generally, do orchestras carry a "full complement" of percussionists or do they have to go outside to fill the need for specific numbers (or types) of percussion players that a work might call for? This question applies to the other sections, as well. For instance, in Mahler Nos. 7 & 8, a mandolin is called for. Is there always a mandolin player on hand in the larger symphony orchestras, or do they bring in "ringers?" I ask because I'm interested in the economics of symphony orchestras and their ability to carry players of all instruments on their payrolls.(5 votes)
- Orchestras will often have contacts for such instruments in case they need them. If they have a decent sized section for instance percussion, and they need more but do not have any more contacts, they will often bring in advanced students or people that work with the existing percussionists for instance. This happens a lot in harp especially.(5 votes)
- What are the lever's on the snare drum and what do they do?(5 votes)
- Those levers contribute to the sound of the snare drum. They are typically caller strainers and are used for tightening or loosening the drum head. When loosened, the drum has a deep sound, similar to a tom, while tightening the head gives it a brighter, harder sound.(3 votes)
- What is the instrument atand 7:52? 8:05(2 votes)
- I believe it to be either a glockenspiel or a xylophone.(1 vote)
- if you play in the percussion do you have to learn how to play every one? Do you play multiple in one piece.(3 votes)
- In an orchestra, timpani players are usually specialists, and only play those. Other percussionists usually need to be able to play a range of instruments. Generally, they have to be able to play pitched percussion like xylophone/marimba or tubular bells, and unpitched ones like snare drums, bass drum, clappers, triangle, and so on. Therefore, they need to be skilled with their hands, sticks, and hard and soft beaters.(2 votes)
- Do percussionists have to mute instruments that are set to the side waiting for their part to come up due to sympathetic vibrations?(1 vote)
- Some things might need to be placed where they won't vibrate (a padded stand, for instance), but it's not likely that sympathetic vibrations will cause much trouble with more percussion instruments. Keep in mind that you need to hit most of them to make a sound.
Some percussion instruments are sensitive. For example, snare drums will buzz furiously during loud passages. That's why they have a lever to disengage the snares.(4 votes)
- What instrument is the Timpani?(1 vote)
- The timpani is the large drum shown atand 3:57. It can be tuned to different notes to match the orchestra. 9:35(2 votes)
- I am finding that the peoples voice don't match is anyone else having this problem?(1 vote)
- I think that it's because they're being recorded in different places, as in the positioning of the cameras. The sound will resonate in different directions, you'll hear it differently depending on your location.(1 vote)
- How is percussion music generally written out? Is more than one instrument written on a part? If so, how?(1 vote)
- Most percussion parts (other than timpani) have multiple instruments in one part. Usually the parts are one after the other, not more than one instrument at the same time. The music tells you which instrument you should be playing at what time.(1 vote)
- how many precision instruments do you have in a orchestra?(1 vote)
- It always depends, but there are a lot of different percussion instruments. Sometimes you even take metal pieces or similar stuff to create a specific sound.(1 vote)
Video transcript
(orchestral music) - [Chris Deviney] As
percussionists, we do play a lot of instruments. A lot of different
techniques required to learn to be able to get all the
different sounds out of those instruments. - We have the most fun of
anybody in the orchestra. We have the lowest of the
low pitched instruments, the bass drum. (bass drum) (orchestral music) - Next, is the triangle, one of the higher pitched instruments. Usually single notes (triangle) or a sustained sound by
rolling between the two sides. (triangle) (orchestral music) - [Matthew Strauss] As percussionists, we also get to play
pitched instruments such as these crotales, part
of the keyboard family. They're laid out like a
piano is laid out with the white notes and the
dark keys right here. Normally, we strike them with
various types of mallets. (crotales) Now, we have more fun than
anybody else in the orchestra 'cause we get to do things like using a Super Ball on a stick
to make sounds like this. (percussion) - And then if we're not making
unusual sounds like that, we're usually providing
rhythm of some sort with another variety of different drums. Snare drum is the typical one. (snare drum) These other drums are
the Latin variety, bongos and timbales. (bongos and timbales) - Then we get to play instruments
that are found throughout the world such as this tambourine. In many different cultures,
they have their versions of the tambourine and we have
various ways of striking the instrument with our hand (tambourine) and we can play fast by using
other parts of our body. (tambourine) And then we can shake and
make a sustained tone which we call a roll. (tambourine) And what would be a
percussion section without the crash cymbals? Now, everybody, hold your ears. (crash cymbals) Ah, fooled you. Percussion instruments can play
loud and soft but of course we all love to play loud. (louder crash cymbals) - And then, finally, oftentimes, we're asked to play mallet instruments which can provide melody like
any of the other instruments and one piece that we've
recorded, Daphnis, has a very, very loud glockenspiel part played on the glockenspiel. ('Daphnis' played on glockenspiel) (orchestral music) - [Chris Deviney] Percussion
instruments, like anything, are learnt skills and essentially, you're learning specific motions required to produce certain sounds
and with a lot of practice, which that's really the key,
a lot of practice will give you the repetition to learn
those motions and that's how you develop the different techniques. A typical technique to play
something like a snare drum, just a simple drum, would be 2
sticks, one in each hand, and the motion is very, very simple
as far as up and down goes, as long as you're only striking
the drum with one stick at a time. There are different
techniques though, where you use more than one
note per stick and when you combine those, that's what
we call a roll and it changes the sound quite a bit so
it's almost kind of like if you were going to become
a very fast runner, you probably wouldn't be
very fast at the beginning, you would learn how to
jog slowly and comfortably and increase your speed over time. It's the same kind of thing
with a technique like that. (orchestral music) - (Chris Deviney) Cymbals
can be a little bit different that way in the sense
that when you're playing a pair of cymbals, what
we call crash cymbals, you can have one in each hand
and there's a motion that you need to prepare in order for the cymbals to strike at
exactly the right time when you want them to for the right
dynamic that you want them to and hopefully getting the,
kind of, roundness out of the cymbal sound that you also want. You can change that slightly
by the direction that the cymbals meet. In other words, if they're
more up and down, you can get a little bit more highs out of them. If they're a little bit more side to side, (orchestral music) you can get a little bit
more lows out of them and that's actually, kind
of, the sound spectrum that the instrument has that
you're trying to bring out. (orchestral music) Typically, what would happen
for something like, say, the mallet instruments that we
play - vibraphone, xylophone, glockenspiel, marimba, chimes. These instruments are often their sound is greatly
altered by the mallets that we choose to play them with. That's not the only way
you can alter it, but it's the most instantaneous and effective way. If you have a mallet that's
the material is very hard and dense, it's gonna get a
different kind of attack than a mallet that's softer,
more malleable, so we have a whole variety, an array
of mallets to choose from. Sometimes we think, "this
mallet's probably good." We send our colleague out
into the audience to see. They come back and say,
"Nope, I can't hear it. There's no attack. It's lost in the big
orchestration of around us. Your instruments not pushing
through and it needs to be so that's the kind of
feedback we need to adjust and know which mallets to use. (orchestral music) Mallet instruments are set
up exactly like a piano - white keys, black keys. Anybody who can play a piano can play a percussion mallet instrument and I was fortunate enough that my
parents got me piano lessons. I took 5 years of piano when I was younger and that was very, very
helpful to be able to make that transfer. My mother and grandmother
like to take credit for the fact that they encouraged
me to pull out pots and pans in the kitchen. On the kitchen floor with wooden spoons. That's literally how I started and they thought it was funny. They thought it was cute
and of course I loved it. I didn't know what I was doing. I think once I got into
the 6th grade, I joined the public band. The public school band program
and that actually kind of set me on a path to really enjoying music. In high school, when I played
with the community orchestra, I experienced all kinds of
different music and wanted to be, actually, a really good drum
set player at one point, turned and went the orchestral
route and fell in love with orchestral music
and that's really how I ended up being a percussionist. (orchestral music) I think I was probably about
16 when I was asked to join this community orchestra
in Pensacola, Florida. I had recordings of orchestral music but I'd never played live
with an orchestra and I remember sitting in a rehearsal,
my very first rehearsal, and listening to this amazing
sound of strings surrounding me that I had never heard
before and I totally missed my percussion cue because I
wasn't paying attention and that's when I knew. Wow, this is a really unique
situation and I hope that I can somehow do this as a career. The public school band program
provided the instruments and all the variety of
instruments to learn and I studied privately with the local
percussion teacher. As I progressed, though,
I needed somebody with a higher level of teaching ability. I went to I used to drive from Pensacola
to Tallahassee, Florida, which is about 3 and a hours away, on the weekends to take my lessons with a grad student at
Florida State University. As I got better, my teachers
got better obviously and I sought them out and that's
really important, I think, in development is really
being active in finding and searching out the best
teachers you possibly can because they're out there. They're willing to help. (orchestral music)