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we're at SFMOMA and we're looking at a Jackie Windsor sculpture this is called number one rope it dates to 1976 it's made of square wood rods there are seven in each row so 7 by 7 7 squares oh and they're vertical and they're holding three balls of hemp which are roughly wound into tight spheres I found myself wondering while we looked at this what was holding it together because each stick seems very separate and yet clearly they're linked in some way also by horizontal bars that we can't see or you can barely see and I think in fact perhaps you're not even supposed to sit right so it has a kind of mysteriousness to its being able to stand up at the same time they almost seem to have a kind of gravity that holds them together so interesting that she's using these sound materials and transforming them I found myself immediately imagining the gesture of the wine game knit so I often make skeins of yarn and it's a really long time to wind this much so there's real labor involved it feels that way yeah also the movement of the hand to make the skeins and so one wonders what purpose these gains in a sense whole because they're almost feels like there's an industrial purposes if they are going to go onto a loom of some sort but it's so interesting because we're thinking about the mechanized and there was something mechanized here in the grid but on the other hand there's something that's so tactile and handmade and it's looking back at a kind of tradition of women's work perhaps we also noticed the rough texture and the way that the hemp is coming apart a little bit compared with the pieces of wood that seems so solid and then of course there's a square hole in the center there is this is just a minute to notice it yeah but there's darkness there that draws our eye in and then you want to rise up on your toes and look in this is serious and how is that shaped and does the square go all the way down and does it expand out in that middle layer perhaps there's something unknown and kind of unknowable about this yeah I think there's a real sense of time because of that element that we were talking about of college yeah so that it's a work that embodies a long duration and work and repetitive work but they come together in this kind of extraordinary sense of unity I mean together the seven by three this unit they feel so solid and so interdependent but each one is different right they're totally different the morning so you noticing how each one is different coloration is different and the winding is different it's almost like that Chinese this beautiful organic material and of course it's gotten journey over time it but it's not precious at all and yet it feels solid and strong making of it feels like it involved a lot of energy and that if one were to ever try to unmake this it would take an extraordinary long period of time exactly