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Lesson 7: Hellenistic- Statue of a Victorious Youth, Getty conversations
- Barberini Faun
- Dying Gaul and Ludovisi Gaul
- The Dying Gaul, reconsidered
- Dying Gaul
- Bronze statue of Eros sleeping
- Winged Victory (Nike) of Samothrace
- Nike (Winged Victory) of Samothrace
- Nike of Samothrace
- Great Altar of Zeus and Athena at Pergamon
- The Pergamon Altar
- Altar at Pergamon
- Apollonius, Seated Boxer
- Seated Boxer
- The Spinario (boy pulling a thorn from his foot)
- Alexander Mosaic from the House of the Faun, Pompeii
- Alexander Mosaic from the House of the Faun, Pompeii
- Alexander Mosaic
- Laocoön and his sons
- Athanadoros, Hagesandros, and Polydoros of Rhodes, Laocoön and his Sons
- Laocoön
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Statue of a Victorious Youth, Getty conversations
Would you believe that this ancient Greek statue was found at the bottom of the ocean by fishermen in the 1960s? What was once a shining emblem of Olympic achievement underwent a physical transformation and now tells of its journey far from home.
Getty has joined forces with Smarthistory to bring you an in-depth look at select works within our collection, whether you’re looking to learn more at home or want to make art more accessible in your classroom. This six-part video series illuminates art history concepts through fun, unscripted conversations between art historians, curators, archaeologists, and artists, committed to a fresh take on the history of visual arts.
A conversation with Dr. Kenneth Lapatin, Curator of Antiquities, Getty Museum and Dr. Beth Harris, Executive Director, Smarthistory, in front of Statue of a Victorious Youth, Greek, c. 300–100 B.C.E. Bronze with inlaid copper, 151.5 x 70 x 27.9 cm. Getty Museum, Los Angeles. Created by Smarthistory.
Getty has joined forces with Smarthistory to bring you an in-depth look at select works within our collection, whether you’re looking to learn more at home or want to make art more accessible in your classroom. This six-part video series illuminates art history concepts through fun, unscripted conversations between art historians, curators, archaeologists, and artists, committed to a fresh take on the history of visual arts.
A conversation with Dr. Kenneth Lapatin, Curator of Antiquities, Getty Museum and Dr. Beth Harris, Executive Director, Smarthistory, in front of Statue of a Victorious Youth, Greek, c. 300–100 B.C.E. Bronze with inlaid copper, 151.5 x 70 x 27.9 cm. Getty Museum, Los Angeles. Created by Smarthistory.
Video transcript
(gentle jazz piano music) - [Dr. Harris] We're in the Getty Villa and we've walked into a
gallery and we're immediately confronted by this idealized male nude. - [Dr. Lapatin] This rare,
stunning ancient Greek bronze looks very different today
than he did in antiquity. He's a mottled,
greenish-brownish-reddish-orangeish color where in antiquity, he was
a golden metallic yellow. He's designed to stand outdoors. We don't know exactly where he stood, but victor statues of this type stood either in the place
they won their victories such as the Sanctuary of Zeus at Olympia, where the Olympic games
were or in their hometowns where they were culture heroes
like Olympic victors today go on the covers of Wheaties boxes, but he's a different
color, he's lost his feet. They were torn off at some
point in his long history. He's lost his eyes, which
would've been inlaid in colored glass or polished
stone or maybe ivory and those would've given him vivacity. - [Dr. Harris] These are
the result of the fact that he spent years,
we're not sure how long, under the water. - [Dr. Lapatin] He was found by fishermen in the Adriatic sea in the
1960s and he was covered with barnacles and other marine growth which have all been
removed by conservators, and that's why he has this mottled skin. He does preserve metallic inserts, his nipples and lips
were covered in copper, so he would've had this
golden yellow, brownish skin and bright red nipples and lips, inlaid colored eyes and
his hair and his wreath would've probably been
patinated a darker color. The wreath maybe was gilded and it's from the wreath, only
fragments of which survived, but we can identify as an olive wreath, makes us think he was a victor at the games at Olympia, and here either he's
just put it on his head or maybe he's reaching
for it to take it off because this is something victors did. They dedicated their
victories to the gods. This was a form of humility, although he doesn't look very humble. He still has to be humble to the gods. - [Dr. Harris] Although
bronze sculptures of athletes are very rare today, they
were very common in antiquity. - [Dr. Lapatin] We have
literary descriptions from ancient authors of hundreds
if not thousands of them, we have statue bases with the
footprints of bronze statues that have been taken and over the years melted down to reuse, so they were turned into shield and spheres
and buckets and hinges and so the ones that we
have today, paradoxically, we have because of disaster, earthquake, landslide, shipwreck. - [Dr. Harris] So this
immediately raises the question why he was in transit. So at some point his
location, his context, his reason for being, changed. - [Dr. Lapatin] And we can
come up with various scenarios without answers. Was he taken from Greece
to Italy as plunder, as a great work of art,
and the ship went down? But maybe he was knocked
off of his statue base and broken at the ankles
and he was being transported to be melted down? A lot of information originally
would've been contained on his base, the base
would've had an inscription that would give us his
name, his father's name where he was from, probably
what event he won the Games in. His body tells us a little bit, he was maybe a runner or
wrestler or javelin thrower, he doesn't seem to be a boxer, and of course the base could even have given us the name of the artist. The height of the base is also important because it would tell us how
he was designed to be seen. Personally, I think he looks better if we bend down and look up at him. - [Dr. Harris] His face
appears so idealized but from the side seems
more individualized. - [Dr. Lapatin] And
that has led some people to try to identify him as a
specific historical individual which is in some ways very optimistic. - [Dr. Harris] One of the
questions that art historians have raised is could this
sculpture be by the great Fourth Century sculptor that we know about from literary sources, Lysippos? - [Dr. Lapatin] Lysippos
was the favorite sculptor of Alexander the Great, and
he's reported to have made over 1500 statues in bronze, which is a staggering number. - [Dr. Harris] None of which survive. - [Dr. Lapatin] Although
there are ancient replicas of his works. One of the things that
Lysippos is known for is coming with new proportions
of thinner figures, of representing movement, of having figures with smaller heads. So this statue conforms to
Lysippan ideals and proportions as we know them, but to
say that it is an original by Lysippos is a stretch,
we don't even know his date. He might be from the late fourth century, the period of Lysippos, but he could be from the third or the second century. These statues were made in molds. From what we know about this
statue and other bronzes, it seems that someone
like Lysippos would have a lot of models and body
parts in different positions. That's how he and his workshop
could produce 1500 statues. - [Dr. Harris] So let's talk
about his life-likeness, his sense of movement. - [Dr. Lapatin] I think
there are a couple of factors that lead to that. One is the subtle and
accurate understanding and depiction of anatomy, not only the soft bulge of say his abdomen or the firmness of his biceps,
but the way these muscles seem to respond to one another
as the body shows movement, but also as they respond to gravity. This is very much an illusion. Our bodies are chaotic, they're imperfect, and what Greek sculptors did
is they filtered that chaos and they selected certain attributes and highlighted them and
they suppressed others. He's shown at this flower of youth, this period the Greeks
praised, he's very toned. We can see traces in his
hands of tendons and veins under the skin and these elements, when you catch one or two,
they trigger your brain, you think, oh, this is accurate. It's not accurate, we would say realistic rather than real. - [Dr. Harris] And there's
this smooth transition between the parts of his body. - [Dr. Lapatin] We have
to remember the Greeks did their athletic events in the nude. The gymnasium comes from
the Greek word, gymnos, meaning nude, and so they saw a lot more nude bodies, and so they would've done a
lot simply by observation. - [Dr. Harris] So let's
talk about his left hand. - [Dr. Lapatin] The left hand
may have held a palm branch. It's a very common attribute of victors, but this hand could have also,
in the sculptor's workshop, been applied to a statue
of a young warrior and could have held a sword. This is how flexible and pragmatic the sculptor's workshops were. - [Dr. Harris] To me, this
epitomizes this Greek love of the male nude. - [Dr. Lapatin] And if we
go back a few centuries, we still had nude male figures the very stiff frontal so-called Kouroi, standing with arms at their sides, and those were used for victory statues, for funerary statues, for
commemorative statues. And with time, there was almost a race to make things more
naturalistic and more idealized and beautiful and he seems
to really reach that height where he's confident in his
own beauty, his own youth, his own prowess, he's just won the Games, he has his olive crown and
he's submitting to the gods, but to no one else. (gentle jazz piano music)