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Lesson 7: Hellenistic- Statue of a Victorious Youth, Getty conversations
- Barberini Faun
- Dying Gaul
- Dying Gaul
- Bronze statue of Eros sleeping
- Winged Victory (Nike) of Samothrace
- Nike (Winged Victory) of Samothrace
- Nike of Samothrace
- Great Altar of Zeus and Athena at Pergamon
- The Pergamon Altar
- Altar at Pergamon
- Apollonius, Seated Boxer
- Seated Boxer
- The Spinario (boy pulling a thorn from his foot)
- Alexander Mosaic from the House of the Faun, Pompeii
- Alexander Mosaic from the House of the Faun, Pompeii
- Alexander Mosaic
- Laocoön and his sons
- Athanadoros, Hagesandros, and Polydoros of Rhodes, Laocoön and his Sons
- Laocoön
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Barberini Faun
Barberini Faun, c. 220 B.C.E., Hellenistic Period (Glyptothek, Munich). Speakers: Dr. Beth Harris & Dr. Steven Zucker. Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.
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- @, How do we know it is a leopard skin? 4:20(24 votes)
- We know it is a leopard skin because satyrs were loyal to Bachus, and the leopard is Bachus's symbol animal so of course he is on a leopard skin.(28 votes)
- How is he part animal "sub-human" in Greek mythology?(9 votes)
- Humans are rational beings and so they are seen as above nature. By giving a human qualities of nature, you show them as being wild and irrational, therefore not as high as humans.(13 votes)
- What was the model for the faces of Greek sculptures? Did they use somebody's face from their own time or was it based on some earlier sculpture?(6 votes)
- Actually they used earlier art peices for models and then used those faces in their sculpture.(5 votes)
- I get the Barberini part, but why call it a faun?(2 votes)
- In Greek, and Roman mythology, there where satyrs, and there where fauns. Fauns where more Roman, while satyrs where more Greek. I guess this peice of art is either Italian or it is Roman influenced.(5 votes)
- Is there any any indication of what the figures left arm would have been doing? 2:00(3 votes)
- If it is a true Greek piece would it have been painted originally?(1 vote)
- Yes, archaeologists have found traces of pigment on many of the surviving Greek statutes and buildings.(1 vote)
- I didn't now anything about the Barberini Faun?(1 vote)
- How can we tell that the faun is in a drunken state instead of just sleeping?(1 vote)
- How do we know this faun is loyal to Bacchus? It said in the video that they were half wild, so how do we know?(1 vote)
Video transcript
STEVEN ZUCKER: Dionysus,
the god of wine, didn't like to be lonely. He was surrounded by
satyrs and by maenads. He loved to party. BETH HARRIS: And you
can't party alone. STEVEN ZUCKER: No,
you can't party alone. And of course, those satyrs
would become tired sometimes, after they drank a bit too much. And that's exactly the
subject of the Barberini Faun that we're looking at. BETH HARRIS: Now, a satyr
is not a human being. He may look human
to us, but he's, in Greek mythology,
part animal, really. STEVEN ZUCKER: That's right. He's a subhuman. The hierarchy of the
gods were the gods of Mount Olympus at the top. Then you had heroes that were
half divine and half human. Then you had humans. And then you had subhumans,
and even below that, monsters. A satyr would be a subhuman. And if you look
really closely, you can tell that, although he
looks quite human in most ways, he's got a tail, pointy
ears, and sometimes this is even
represented with hooves. BETH HARRIS: Yeah, you can
see the tail actually coming from behind his left thigh. That's where I first noticed it. STEVEN ZUCKER: And
for the Greeks, these particular
subhumans, the satyrs, were half civilized
and half wild. And so it was a wonderful way
to express the uncultivated, the kind of barbaric
qualities of human nature. BETH HARRIS: His name
is the Barberini Faun. He's not really a faun. He's really more a satyr. But he's called the Barberini
Faun because when he was discovered in Rome, near the
Castel Sant'Angelo in 1625, the pope at the time was
from the Barberini family. And everyone recognized how
spectacular this figure was. And the pope said,
well, I officially declare this to be part
of my family collection. STEVEN ZUCKER: He
wanted to do that because it was so important, not
only as just a stellar example of sculpture, but we
think that this actually dates to the third century BCE. And that it is an
original Greek sculpture. BETH HARRIS: Although
it's always very hard to tell whether something is
a Greek original or a later Roman copy. STEVEN ZUCKER: It could
be a terrific copy. We do know, though, that
at least a portion of it has been restored. And you can see those
restorations quite clearly in the lower part of the
left thigh and almost the entire right leg and foot. BETH HARRIS: So this
spectacular sculpture ended up here in Munich
when it was acquired by Prince Ludwig of Bavaria
in the early 19th century. Quite a sculpture to add to his
collection for his new museum. STEVEN ZUCKER: It's an amazing
thing to think that this was likely found in the moat of
Hadrian's Tomb in what is now Castel Sant'Angelo in Rome. I imagine people were
vying to purchase this. BETH HARRIS: It's
incredibly erotic. This figure has his legs spread. He's in a drunken, half
sleeping, half awake state. STEVEN ZUCKER: We can
see that in his body. On the one hand, it's
absolute exhaustion. He is just dead tired. But on the other side, you can
see the agitation of his body. There's tension there. Look at that right leg,
the way it's pushed up. Now, that part is a restoration. But we know that that's pretty
much the placement because of the rock on which it sat. BETH HARRIS: And you
can see from his face, too, that there's a combination
of exhaustion and restlessness. STEVEN ZUCKER: Well,
look at that face. It is just
spectacularly sensitive. And I love the fact that
it's not symmetrical. His head is pushed
over to the side. And if you look at
his cheek straight on, you can see that
gravity is compressing the right side of his face and
it's expanding the left side. And so there really is
this intense naturalism, this observation of the elastic
qualities of the human body. BETH HARRIS: Now, we're in
the Hellenistic period, where ancient Greek artists are
expanding their subject matter. So we don't just have the
heroic, ideal, athletic nudes that we saw in the
classical period. But here, the art is exploring
more emotional states, more varieties of
subject matter. STEVEN ZUCKER: That's right. Sometimes this is even referred
to as the Hellenistic Baroque, because of its willingness
to remove the reserve that we associate with the high
classical period before. BETH HARRIS: He's certainly
not reserved in any way. STEVEN ZUCKER: No, not at all. So what are the
other accoutrements? What are the other symbols
that identify him as a satyr? As if the tail and the
ears and the wanton abandon quality
wasn't enough, you can see that he's laid
out a leopard skin. He's on a rock, and it's
certainly protecting him from the roughness of the rock. And you can see that he's
even keeping his heel on it. It's softer, and he's rolled it
up a little bit under his arm so that it functions
somewhat like a cushion. BETH HARRIS: Although it is
a little bit hard for you to imagine him walking
up to this rock, laying down the leopard skin,
and then somehow lying on it. STEVEN ZUCKER: No,
it's a conceit. BETH HARRIS: It is. STEVEN ZUCKER: So you said
that this is Hellenistic, and it certainly
is, in so many ways. But it is clearly informed
by the classical tradition that had come before it. BETH HARRIS: In terms of its
treatment of the human body and its attention to
musculature and anatomy. STEVEN ZUCKER: Absolutely. And I think that's really
clear in the torso. BETH HARRIS: We
can see the folds of his flesh in his abdomen,
or the careful articulation of the muscles in the
shoulders and the armpit. This is an amazing
understanding of human anatomy. STEVEN ZUCKER: But it is
also a little bit off-kilter. You can see that the
ribcage is pushing a little bit to his left. And so the whole thing
has a gentle turn to it, making it even more complex. BETH HARRIS: There is
a turn in the torso, and we see that in other
ancient Greek sculptures, like the Belvedere Torso. And although this was found
100 years after Michelangelo, or a little bit
less, you can see how that kind of twisting
and torsion in the body was something that
Michelangelo would pick up on. STEVEN ZUCKER: I think
if Michelangelo had ever had the opportunity
to see this, he would have absolutely loved it. BETH HARRIS: No question.