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Ancient Mediterranean + Europe
Course: Ancient Mediterranean + Europe > Unit 6
Lesson 7: Hellenistic- Statue of a Victorious Youth, Getty conversations
- Barberini Faun
- Dying Gaul and Ludovisi Gaul
- The Dying Gaul, reconsidered
- Dying Gaul
- Bronze statue of Eros sleeping
- Winged Victory (Nike) of Samothrace
- Nike (Winged Victory) of Samothrace
- Nike of Samothrace
- Great Altar of Zeus and Athena at Pergamon
- The Pergamon Altar
- Altar at Pergamon
- Apollonius, Seated Boxer
- Seated Boxer
- The Spinario (boy pulling a thorn from his foot)
- Alexander Mosaic from the House of the Faun, Pompeii
- Alexander Mosaic from the House of the Faun, Pompeii
- Alexander Mosaic
- Laocoön and his sons
- Athanadoros, Hagesandros, and Polydoros of Rhodes, Laocoön and his Sons
- Laocoön
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Apollonius, Seated Boxer
The Seated Boxer is a rare Greek bronze sculpture from the Hellenistic period around 100 BC. It shows an older, defeated athlete with a strong body but a wounded face. The sculpture is hollow and made using lost wax casting. It represents a shift in Greek art towards more emotional and diverse subjects. Speakers: Dr. Steven Zucker and Dr. Beth Harris. Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.
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- Were bronze statues painted, in the same way that marble ones were? Might this statue have had some details painted on it?(59 votes)
- I've been searching for an answer to this. Most Greek bronzes were discovered from shipwrecks, so i guess any evidence of paint would be hard to find. However, it seems that they were not painted because the Greeks used other materials give definition to the bronze,the ivory for eyes and 1:08inlaid copper for the scars. So my guess is that they were not painted. 2:17(14 votes)
- What does Chased mean?(21 votes)
- Chasing means to cut into the surface of the bronze to create fine details and texture. In the case of the Seated Boxer, look at the lines in the hair and beard for example.(29 votes)
- why are the Greek statues hollow?(15 votes)
- Greek sculptures made of metal are hollow because they are made using a method called lost-wax casting. The melted bronze is poured into a mold to coat the inside of the mold. Also, the material, bronze, was very expensive and heavy. A solid bronze sculpture would be too expensive and too heavy.
A great discription of lost-wax casting is found in this video: http://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/art-history/introduction-to-art-history/v/bronze-casting(18 votes)
- Why did the Romans and the Greeks go to war?(10 votes)
- Very simple. The Romans made their money by going into others' countries taking over, taking their stuff and taxing them.
iTunes has a great history of Rome podcast called "The History of Rome" produced by one Mike Duncan.(21 votes)
- What's your opinion on how the eyes were removed? Perhaps cut down into fragments so as to remove them without damaging the statue?(13 votes)
- They maybe fell out at some point in the many years that the statue was lost, or they may have disintegrated, I agree, that is a good question.(10 votes)
- At, i understand that his forearms are wrapped in leather... but what are the wrappings at the end of the leather? (still on forearms) 2:58(6 votes)
- The Greeks and Romans both used wool as padding to absorb blows. The bands on this boxers arms are probably wool coming up from underneath is wrappings.(5 votes)
- Wow. I always find old stuff creepy. Does anyone else? But I think this is amazing. Oh, and where is this sculpture? I would like to go to this area.(3 votes)
- From the author:It is in Rome.(5 votes)
- How would the artist combine copper into the figure?(4 votes)
- Maybe so it can help hold the figures together because the figures must weight a lot, am I right.(0 votes)
- I've heard about a Greek ideal called catharsis which emphasized on tragedies where the audience would get sort of an emotional purge while watching the play and relieve tension through it. Is it possible this idea come about in the Hellenistic period and influenced the art to be more emotional, or was sculpture separate enough from theatre to not share the same ideals?(3 votes)
- How would the eyes be attached if the head were hollow? Would they have had long-term adhesive back then?(4 votes)
- I'm not sure how the eyes were attached, but the Egyptians already used adhesives (derived from animal products) in the production of wheels and bows hundreds or maybe even thousands of years before this statue was made.(2 votes)
Video transcript
(piano playing) Dr. Zucker: Almost always when we look at Greek sculpture we're
looking at Roman copies, we're looking at marble copies of what had once been bronze, but bronze is expensive and it's reusable. So, for the 2000 years since these objects were made there was ample opportunity for them to be melted
down, but once in a while we find a Greek original. Dr. Harris: We're looking
at the seated Boxer, a Greek Hellenistic
sculpture from about 100 BC. Hellenistic refers to this period after Alexander the Great. Dr. Zucker: This is the
last phase of ancient Greek art because the Hellenistic will end when the Roman's conquer Greece. Because it's bronze we have an opportunity to understand how the Greek's constructed their large scale sculpture. This is lost wax casting
and it would be chase so you could actually carve into portions and we can see that
especially in the beard and in the hair, so those lines are cut into the surface. Dr. Harris: So the sculpture
is hollow in other words. Dr. Zucker: Well we can
see that if you look into the eyes, if you look into the mouth, you can see the hollowness. Now, originally there
would have been eyes, they're missing. They probably would have been Ivory or some sort of glass
paste, something reflective and highly polished, but yes, we can see that this is quite thin. If we knocked on it, it
would ring like a bell. Dr. Harris: A few moments
ago as we were looking at it there was standing in the very place that he seems to be
looking and I almost felt like he was in actual
dialogue with someone. Dr. Zucker: He has that
tremendous sense of presences, doesn't he? Dr. Harris: He does. During this Hellenistic
period we see a real expansion of the subject
matter that we usually think of as Greek art. Usually we think about ideal, beautiful, nude, athletic, young figures. Dr. Zucker: This is an athletic figure, but he's not young and he's not beautiful in the traditional sense. Dr. Harris: When I look
at him I find parts of him beautiful, but his
face is certainly not. Dr. Zucker: The beauty comes from our understanding of his
life, of his suffering. Instead of through the
elegance and perfection of his body, he's muscular, he's powerful, but he's defeated. Dr. Harris: Yeah, there's
definitely a sense of pathos, this sculpture
engages us emotionally. Dr. Zucker: The artist has
been careful to make sure that we feel sympathy. He's inlaid copper into parts of his face where he's defined
wounds so that the copper functions almost as a more red color against the bronze and
we can see him bleeding. Dr. Harris: Boxing in
Ancient Greece focused mainly to the head, to the
face and that's why his body looks still so very
beautiful and perfect. When I said before, I still
find him ideally beautiful, I was thinking about
the incredible muscles in his torso. He's still really thin and athletic, but the face is such a contrast and also his hands all wrapped in leather. The face and the hands ground him in a kind of, reality of a moment. Dr. Zucker: That's especially
true with his posture. You can see that he's not simply seated, his torso is collapsing, his head is down, he's looking up but you
can feel the exhaustion. You can also see the way in which his body has been beaten, the broken nose, the gashes in his face and look at his ear which is swollen and distorted. Dr. Harris: We rarely see seated figures in the Classical Period in Greek art; the figures are standing, they're noble, they exist in the world
in that heroic way. Just by virtue of just being seated there's a humility and
humanity to the figure. Dr. Zucker: There's also a informality. His right leg is out and up on the heel. His left leg is splayed out slightly under the weight of his arm. This is a man who would like to lie down. This is a period in Greek
art when there really is an interest in pathos, in
moving beyond the heroic, moving beyond the
traditional subjects of the ancient world and really
beginning to explore a much wider variety. It's fascinating. It is this incredibly
sophisticated moment. (piano playing)