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Course: Ancient Mediterranean + Europe > Unit 6
Lesson 3: Daedalic and Archaic- Tiny Timelines: Archaic Greece in a global context
- Kouroi and Korai, an introduction
- Lady of Auxerre
- Bronze helmet donated by Olympic gold medalist Son Gijeong
- New York Kouros
- New York Kouros
- Marble Statue of a kouros
- Anavysos Kouros
- Anavysos Kouros
- The Kouroi of Kleobis and Biton
- Peplos Kore from the Acropolis
- Peplos Kore
- Ancient Greek temples at Paestum, Italy
- Sanctuary of Apollo at Delphi
- Siphnian Treasury, Delphi
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Ancient Greek temples at Paestum, Italy
Ancient Greek Temples at Paestum: Hera I, c. 560-530 B.C.E., Archaic Period; Hera II, c. 460 B.C.E., Classical Period; Temple of Minerva, c. 500 B.C.E. Archaic Period. A conversation with Dr. Beth Harris and Dr. Steven Zucker. Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.
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- Did these temples have any of the elements like the Parthenon that used curved lines to make the building actually appear straighter? Did these temples also embrace some of the mathematical principles like the golden ratio?(17 votes)
- There's some evidence that entasis (bulging columns), which people have suggested is to make a building look straighter by counteracting perspective, is actually a purely structural requirement. http://www.journalofvision.org/content/7/9/355(13 votes)
- How did the temples last when all the buildings around them have fallen down?
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@haypenny, I meant these particular temples, but that is still a good answer.(4 votes)- Often they didn't. Many (like the Parthenon) have been wholly or partially restored after falling into ruin. Most were cannibalised for stone at some point. Often sanctuary sites (like the Santuary of Apollo on Despotiko in the Cyclades which was underneath an animal pen) are discovered due to finds (pottery, tools, marble fragments) found on the surface during fieldwalking, and are then excavated.(10 votes)
- Was that a temple to Minerva? I thought she was a Roman god, but this was made by Greeks?(3 votes)
- Minerva was the Roman version of the Greek goddess Athena. Maybe the temple was original dedicated to Athena, and then rededicated to Minerva after the Romans conquered the area. Or maybe the Hera temples are identified in Greek sources, and the Minerva temple in Latin/Roman ones.(6 votes)
- How would these temples be so well preserved with polluton, weather, and all of that good stuff?
i really dont understand how people could do that, and at about, they were talking about the romans counquering the greeks, so how could all of that stand? 4:50(4 votes)- The Romans worshiped the same gods as the Greeks, they just used different names. Further, they believed that part of their success as an empire came from respecting local gods as well. The Romans would preserve temples to local gods, and would sometimes build new ones; the only exceptions were religions that did not respect Roman rule (like the Druids).(4 votes)
- Sorry if I missed it, but where do these columns fall along the Doric, Ionic, Corinthian, Tuscan, and Composite? Also, what lead to the changes in columns? My theory is it's usually a technology, but this video made me think maybe invasions and ancient globalization played a part.(4 votes)
- Commentary at approximatelyidentifies the columns on the Temple of Hera as Doric. Structurally, all three of the major orders should share similar characteristics. According to the Roman architect Vitruvius, the Doric order was derived from male or masculine proportions and the Ionian from female proportions (humans being the measure of all things). Vitruvius credits Callimachus with the creation of the Corinthian order, inspired by a votive offering overgrown by an acanthus plant. The order came to Rome via conquest. 1:28(4 votes)
- How long did it take to make both Temples of Hera if the fluted columns were so heavy? Did they place them like the Egyptians did, with huge ropes and sledges, or did they carve them there? What did they possibly think?(3 votes)
- Most of the fluted columns were made in drum shaped section. The sections were then stacked on top of each other, creating a log of column shape.(3 votes)
- Why do the temples have doric colums?(3 votes)
- It may have been a preference more than anything else, but I believe Doric columns are more classical Greek, and the others, Ionic and Corinthian were more popular with the Romans, or just more widely used. You can read more on Wikipedia, (Ancient Greek architecture) Hope this helped!(3 votes)
- How tall are these two temples? Do the heights follow a ratio similar to the length and breadth of these buildings?(3 votes)
- What other city of that region participates in the great Greece?(2 votes)
- The city that makes the best pizza in the world: Naples! "In Naples, where love is king." At the time its name was Neapolis or new polis and the city belonged to Helade that is as the towns of the region called to itself or to the set of the cities of the place.(3 votes)
- At, isn't it better preserved because it is newer? 3:21(3 votes)
Video transcript
(quick tempo piano music) Voiceover: We're in a small town on the Meditteranean called Paestum. Voiceover: Paestum is the
Roman name, the Latin name. Before that, it was Greek,
and it was called Poseidonia. The town was named after the
God of the Sea, Poseidon. Voiceover: This was a Greek settlement, sometimes called a colony,
although it was really an independent small Greek city. Voiceover: And there were lots of these all over the south of
Italy in what historians call Magna Graecia, or the greater Greece. Greece had colonies in Italy but also in many other places in the Mediterranean including what is now Turkey. Paestum contains three
fabulously preserved ancient Greek Doric temples, two from the archaic period of
the sixth century and one from the classical
period of the fifth century. The Greeks, over time,
adjusted the proportions of the architecture, of
the width of the columns and number of columns
on the front and side, always in a search for
perfection or ideal beauty. Voiceover: The oldest of
the three is dedicated to the Goddess Hera, who
was the wife of Zeus. This temple, Hera One,
has all of the elements that we would expect to
see in a Doric temple. It's got massive heavy
columns that have no feet. They go directly into the platform of the temple itself, the Stylobate. They rise up with a
shallow broad fluting and, and end in a very simple
geometric capital. In addition, that temple has
a kind of exaggerated entasis. The column isn't straight. It bulges towards the middle
and tapers towards the top. In this case it's so
exaggerated it makes it seem as if the column is bulging
under the weight above. Voiceover: And the capitals also almost seem flattened by the weight of the roof so there's a real sense
of horizontality and of weight in the oldest of these temples. Voiceover: The temple is
an interesting deviation. The front of it has nine columns across and that's a little bit peculiar. Because it's an odd number, you have to walk around that central column. Voiceover: Greek temples were really meant as houses for the Gods,
not the way we think of a temple or a church
as a place of worship. The worship would have
happened outside of the temple. But in the case of Hera One
there's a row of columns right in the middle of the Cella so it's hard to imagine how the
cult statue fit inside. Voiceover: Actually, there's a number of different theories about this. Some have suggested that
perhaps this was a temple to both Hera and her
husband Zeus, in which case perhaps there were two
cult statues in the back, but to be honest nobody knows for sure. There is a lovely sense
of balance, of proportion of Hera one, of this oldest
of the three temples. You've got nine columns
in front and on the side you've got 18, so you've got a
very neat geometric doubling. Voiceover: And art historians really like to contrast the older Hera One with so-called Hera Two
from the classical period, which is very different
in it's proportions. It has a much greater
sense of verticality, of being more slender, of not being so subsumed under the weight of the roof. It's also, in many ways, better preserved in that we can see the
frieze with the triglyphs and metopes and part of
the pediment remains. Voiceover: But probably the
biggest difference for me between Hera One and
the so-called Hera Two is that Hera Two is much closer to what we have come to expect from
a Doric temple such as the Parthenon, on the acropolis in Athens. This has six columns in the front so it is symmetrical in the front. There is a gap in the middle
that we could walk through. And the side contains 14 columns. This temple, though, has some
other kinds of variations. It's got a second colonnade
just in back of the first, and then the interior space is defined by an outer wall and then a colonnade that has a second set of columns above it. Voiceover: This seems
to be a better solution for supporting the roof than a row of columns down the center
that we see in Hera One. Voiceover: So lets spend a moment really looking at Hera Two and looking at the changes that have taken place. The columns have less pronounced entasis. In addition, the flair at
the top of the column, at the base of the capital,
is not as exaggerated, it's not as wide or as
plate-like as it was in Hera One. Voiceover: And as a result, this structure has a greater sense of lift. But one of the things
that's often missing from a discussion of both of these
temples is the location. All around are even older
Greek ruins and Roman ruins. The Romans would conquer
this area, would take the entire peninsula of Italy, they would push out the Greeks in the south of Italy and push out the Etruscans in the north. Voiceover: They took this
area of Paestum in the third century BCE so that's
when this became Roman. Voiceover: So all around these temples are roman houses, roman apartment blocks, there's an amphitheater. Voiceover: These things
literally coexisting. When we look at Hera Two,
this classical Doric temple, I think it's also useful to
think about ancient Greek sculpture that was made
at this time like the Doryphoros or some of
the images of Gods and Goddesses that we saw today in the museum in Naples or of Greek athletes and heroes. We're at this moment of what was called the Golden Age of Greece,
of Periclean Athens, of the invention of Democracy,
of humanist philosophy. Voiceover: The culture
that at this very moment was inventing the geometry
that we still use, was seeking to understand
the movements of the heavens, the movement of the
human body, was inventing the philosophy that we
still struggle with. We're looking at artifacts, at buildings, that were created by a culture that profoundly shaped our world. Voiceover: Both of these temples and the third temple that
archaeologists believe was dedicated to Minerva
or Athena all have a sense, to me, of rising
out of the landscape, of giving form to human aspiration. (fast tempo piano music)