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Ecological succession: Change is good

Hank examines how ecological communities change after a disturbance. Created by EcoGeek.

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  • duskpin ultimate style avatar for user Το Αίμα του Υιού της δημιουργίας και της καταστροφής, ο Υιός του Triscalade
    Technically, if Earth is an ecosystem, then it has the highest biodiversity and Earth is a "stabilized" ecosystem right?
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    • leaf green style avatar for user Phoenix
      Just saying that your question is technically incorrect. When talking of an ecosystem in biology, we talk of an area much-much less than the earth. A community comprises of a small limited area with interdependent species interacting with each other and their environment. For eg. a small lake can be said to be an ecosystem with organisms inside and outside the lake comprising different ecosystems. And then you may ask "Is the ecosystem of that particular lake stabilized?"

      About the answer to your question, you can say several ecosystems on the earth have high bio-diversity. But still there is a lot more area under ecosystems which have not diversified yet.

      If you're getting confused with the term "Ecosystem" I recommend you Google out the differences between an ecosystem, a biome and the biosphere.
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  • piceratops ultimate style avatar for user lilse
    The video discussed how there is little disturbances in the ecosystem that keep it aligned making little niches for more biodiversity to become present. Like, small fires in the forest for example, thus so if there is massive logging in the American Northwest and the Amazon Rainforest, shouldn't there become many new biological niches that arise from that circumstance? Can humans provide the tools for a biological niche to 'find its niche?' [Sorry about the phrasing]
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    • female robot amelia style avatar for user nl
      Most of the time when people destroy rainforest, especially in more impoverished areas, it's not like they are just cutting down trees and then allowing wilderness and natural processes to return and the niche development that goes with them. Rather, areas are cleared for a hand-full of crops which people control and manage, often poorly, which does not enrich the ecosystem but depletes it, especially the soil, fairly quickly. Leading to more rainforest being cleared. Some forests are also cleared just to create more grazing land (read less complex system with less bio-diversitiy and fewer niches not more) for their herds. And as Andrew M said, bio-diversity takes time.
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  • blobby green style avatar for user jas2569
    Is there such a thing as a self aware ecological disturbance? and if so would humanity fall into that category?
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    • leaf green style avatar for user dbridge241
      There is a parasitic fungus which may be the largest organism in the world at 2400 acres (3.75 square miles) in Eastern Oregon. It is estimated to be 2200 years old and kills the forest which grows around it and over it. This fungus is called Armillaria mellea. Apparently the fruiting bodies are edible, but I would never eat a mushroom you don't know and hasn't been identified by a skilled mycologist. Also, its a plant pathogen, that doesn't sound like a good meal.
      There is a very interesting debate about whether 'awareness' and 'self awareness' should be expanded. Check out an experiment done by microbiologist Toshuyiki Nakagaki showed in 2000 (published in Nature) that slime mold can ‘learn’ to find the most efficient pathway to food through a maze. Through signal integration fungus talks to plants and vise versa, which allows each to make 'intelligent' choices about the surroundings. This is after all what I would call self-aware.

      Recently, (and more technical!)
      In April 2013, Giles E. D. Oldroyd published a paper entitled “Speak, friend, and enter: signaling systems that promote beneficial symbiotic associations in plants”. He describes the relationships formed by legumes with mycorrhizal fungi and how those relationships help a neighbor plants survive by communicating pathogenic attacks, infestations, and nutrient loss. Oldroyd’s research is to pinpoint and describe the specific activation of signaling pathways, the factors initiated by these pathways, and the kinases (enzymes responsible for the transfer of phosphate groups) associated with the beginning of the symbiosis with the mycorrizae. Another recent study focused on just one of the specific kinase responsible for this process, called CCaMK (calcium- and calmodulin-dependent kinase) which activates a DNA binding transcription activator called CYCLOPS. It is believed that this transcription kinase allows the genetics of the root cells to be “reprogrammed” by rhizome induced calcium signaling. This allows for the activation of a single gene. This gene induces a root nodule to form which is then colonized by the rhizobia. These signaling mechanisms, kinase activations, and other chemical signals are the basic language of nature.
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  • male robot hal style avatar for user richmasterninja
    Can we make an artificial ecosystem and carefully monitor it to ensure eternal stability?
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  • male robot donald style avatar for user austin222
    What did he Mean by that Primary Succession would take a "Long,Long time"?
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    • leaf grey style avatar for user ★
      Primary succession starts with just pioneer species and rocks. You know how long it takes for trees to grow, right? Well, over time, shrubs and smaller plants will grow there and will allow the tiny animals to move in. Years pass, and then bigger plants will start growing for larger organisms. Fast forward a hundred or so years, and here come the spruce, pine, and small trees will begin to grow. Keep on going a few years later, and that's when the bigger trees grow and the ecosystem becomes a climax community.
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  • primosaur sapling style avatar for user Chris
    What is a biological niche? (, for example)
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    • aqualine ultimate style avatar for user Curi0sity
      In Ecology a "Niche" is a term with a variety of meanings related to the behavior of a species living under specific environmental conditions. The ecological niche describes how an organism or population responds to the distribution of resources and competitors (for example, by growing when resources are abundant, and when predators, parasites and pathogens are scarce) and how it in turn alters those same factors (for example, limiting access to resources by other organisms, acting as a food source for predators and a consumer of prey).
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  • mr pants teal style avatar for user Richard
    So, secondary succession occurs after "small" disturbances, and primary succession occurs after "big" disturbances?
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    • female robot amelia style avatar for user nl
      Or you could think of it as Secondary Succession happens when a disturbance reduces an existing ecosystem and leaves the groundwork (soil, seeds, roots, bacteria etc.) in tact. Whereas Primary Succession would be when a disturbance wipes out an existing ecosystem and Pioneer Species are needed to come start a new ecosystem from scratch.
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  • marcimus pink style avatar for user marisa ingram
    can help explain the difference between primary and secondary succession and give an example. I kind of get that primary succession is completely from scratch and secondary has a head start in a way.
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    • mr pants teal style avatar for user Tina
      an example of primary succession would be something like a volcanic eruption, destroying everything in the area and afterwards everything has to grow back again. an example of secondary succession could be a wildfire in a forest, as many of the trees and plants are destroyed, but some organisms still remain.
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  • leaf blue style avatar for user Patrick Donovan
    At Hank said a mosaic was a bunch of tiny communities.
    Is there another meaning?
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  • piceratops seed style avatar for user jakemeyers8674
    At wouldn't another reason for plants to live there be all the nutrients in the ground from the previous plants, especially if it was a fire?
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Video transcript

- You remember back in the days right after the Permian-Triassic Extinction event, with that giant flaming asteroid and those methane explosions killed almost all of the organisms on the planet? No, of course you don't, because that happened two hundred and fifty two million years ago and mammals weren't the thing yet. But that's kinda the point of this episode, that asteroid was a disturbance to the ecology of the planet. The flora and the fauna and the soils were largely wiped out, leaving a blank canvas for the organisms that survived, and there weren't really all that many of them, to fill in as they could. What happened after the Permian-Triassic disturbance is a dramatic example of ecological succession. How the make up of a community changes over time starting from like the day after a disturbance. Just usually the disturbance is a little less disturbing. The study of how ecological communities change doesn't just look at huge long periods of time or the effects of some apocalypse, succession can easily happen over a season in park, or in just a few days in a patch of land as small as your garden. And this might come as a surprise, but disturbances that shake up the status quo within a community actually serve to make that community better in the long run. Because much like life and the entire universe, succession is all about change and change is how a universe full of nothing but Hydrogen came to include a planet full of life. (upbeat music) Disturbances happen in ecosystems all the time, everyday a wildfire, a flood, a windstorm. After these unpredictable events, ecologists kept seeing predictable, even orderly, changes in the ecosystem. How life deals with these disturbances is an important key to understanding ecosystems. First, let's note that a tree falling in the forest and a comet falling in the forest, while both disturbances, are different levels of disturbance. Likewise, there are a couple of different types of succession. The first type, the one that happens after the asteroid hits or the glacier plows over the landscape or the forest fire slash volcano burns the verdant ecosystem into pure desolation, that's called a primary succession, when organisms populate an area for the first time. The jumping off point for primary succession is your basic lifeless post-apocalyptic wasteland. You're probably thinking that place sounds terrible, who would ever want to live there? Well, actually there is one tremendous advantage to desolate wastelands: no competition. A lot of organisms don't mind settling down in the more inhospitable nooks and crannies of the planet. These pioneer species are often procaryotes or protists followed by non vascular plants then maybe some extra super hardy vascular plants. There are tons of organisms that make their living colonizing dead places, it's their thing. Like before the Permian-Triassic extinction, there were these dense forests of gymnosperms probably full of species a lot like the conifers and gingkos and cycads we still have today. But after the asteroid hit, the big forests died and were replaced by lycophytes. Simpler vascular plants like the now extinct scale trees and today's club mosses. While they might have had a hard time competing with the more complicated plants during the good times, the rest of the Paleozoic floor barely survived extinction. Of all the dozens of species of gingko that were around back then, only one still exists completely genetically isolated, a living fossil. It's important to remember that when we talk about primary ecological succession, we're talking about plants pretty much exclusively. 'Cause plants rule the world, remember? Without plants, the animals in a community don't stand a chance and primary successional species are often plants that have wind borne seeds like lycophytes, or mosses and lychens that have spores that blow in and colonize the area. And the outcome of a primary successional landscape is to build or rebuild soils which develop over time as the mosses, grasses and tiny little plants grow, die and decompose. Once the soils are ready, slightly bigger plants can move in at which point we move on to secondary succession and then it's game on, a whole redwood forest could develop outta that. But primary succession takes a long, long time, like hundreds, maybe thousands of years in some places. In fact, the recovery of these big gymnosperm forests after Permian-Triassic extinction event took about four or five millions years. Dirt may seem unglamorous to you, but it is alive and beautiful and complicated and making good soil takes time. Now, secondary succession isn't just the next act after primary succession has made a place livable after some disaster, it's usually the first response after a smaller disturbance like a flood or a little fire has knocked back the plants that have been ruling the roost for a while. Even a disturbance as small as a tree crashing down in the woods, can make a tiny patch of forest more like it was fifty years ago, before that one tree got so huge and shady. In that tiny area, there will suddenly be a different microclimate than in the rest of the forest which might have more sunlight, slight higher temperatures, less protection from weather, et cetera. And just like every other ecosystem on earth, this tiny patch of forest will be affected by temperature and precipitation the most, which will be different in different parts of the forest. So, as a result of the fallen of tree, the soils will become different, the mix of plants will become different and different animals will wanna do business there because that little niche suits there needs better than other little niches. So the question becomes, when does succession stop and things get back to normal? Never, because change doesn't end. Change is the only constant, people. You know who said that? Heraclitus in five hundred BC. So it's been true since at least then. Consider it a lesson in life and, as ideas in ecology go, it's actually a pretty new way of looking at things. See, back in the early twentieth century, ecologists noticed a tendency of communities to morph over time. But they also saw succession in terms of a community changing until it ultimately ended in what they called a climax community, which would have a predictable assemblage of species that would remain stable until the next big disturbance. Or maybe that's what seemed to be happening, but ecological succession is actually a lot more complicated than that. For starters, there's a little thing called stochasticity, or randomness, which prevents us from ever knowing exactly what a community is gonna look like a hundred years after a disturbance. Stochasticity is basically your element of unpredictable variability in anything. So, you could predict with some accuracy what plants are gonna take over a glacial moraine after the ice has receded because the seeds of some colonizer species typically make it there first. But unpredictable things like weather conditions during early stages of succession can end up favoring another species. The point is scientists' attempt to predict what a community ends up looking like in a hundred years should always thought of as probabilities, not certainties. Another difficulty with the whole model of a climax community has to do with the idea of an ecosystem eventually stabilizing. That word stable, whenever it's used in a sentence that also includes the word ecology, you can pretty much be sure it's being used wrong, because stability never happens. There are always disturbances happening, all the time in every ecosystem. A small portion of the forest might burn, a windstorm might take out a bunch of trees, some yeehaw might rent himself a backhoe one weekend and clear himself a little patch of heaven on the mountain beside his house because he's got nothing better to do. Who knows? Stuff happens. So, instead of ending in some fixed, stable climax community we now know that an ecosystem is in later successional stages if it has high biodiversity. Lots and lots of biodiversity. And the only way biodiversity could be high is if there are tons of little niches for all those species to fit into. And the only way there can be that many niches, is if instead of a single community, an ecosystem is actually made up of thousands of tiny communities. A mosaic of habitats where specific communities of different organisms lived. Such mosaics of niches are created by disturbances over time with everything always changing here and there but it's important that these disturbances be of the right kind and the right scale. Because it turns out that the kind of disturbances that have the greatest effect on biodiversity, are the most moderate disturbances. When ecologists figured this out, they decided to call it the Intermediate Disturbance Hypothesis because it hypothesizes that intermediate disturbances, not too big and not too little, are ideal. See, just a little disturbance like a fallen tree or something, isn't really enough to change the game. On the other hand, a really severe disturbance, like getting covered with lava, would take the community all the way back to asteroid wipe out level primary succession. But every nice, mid level disturbance creates its own habitat at it's own stage of succession with its own unique niches. More niches, means more biodiversity and more biodiversity means more stability and healthier ecosystems. Even if two disturbances happen in two different areas with roughly the same climate at the same time, the stochastic nature of ecosystems mean that the two areas might recover in completely different ways, leading to even more niches and even more biodiversity. Now, this does not mean that you should go rent a backhoe tomorrow and cut a swath into the wilderness, it's just suggesting that a medium level of disturbance is natural and normal and good for an ecosystem. It keeps everybody on their toes. And like I said, disturbance happens and by and large we should let it happen. This too is a relatively new idea in ecology, in fact for most of the history of public land management in the U.S. great swaths of forests were not allowed to burn. People considered the purpose of forest to be wood production and you don't wanna burn down some trees that are gonna make you a bunch of money. But because of the lack of intermediate disturbances over a long period of time, we ended up with catastrophic fires like the one that torched Yellowstone National Park back in 1988. A single lightning strike totally annihilated almost eight hundred thousand acres of public forest because the ecosystem hadn't been allowed to indulge in a nice, leisurely burn every now and then. But now those forests have undergone more than twenty years of succession and some parts have even re-burned at a more intermediate level creating a nice, high biodiversity mosaic of habitats and it's gorgeous, you should come visit it sometime. And that is ecological succession for you, how destruction and disturbance lead to beauty and diversity Just remember what my main man Heraclitus said and you'll be good, the only constant is change.