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Lesson 3: Cranach and Altdorfer- Lucas Cranach the Elder, Saint Maurice — a Black saint in the Renaissance
- Cranach, Law and Gospel (Law and Grace)
- Cranach, Adam and Eve
- Cranach's Adam and Eve
- Cranach the Elder, Cupid complaining to Venus
- Cranach the Elder, Judith with the Head of Holofernes
- Altdorfer, the Battle of Issus
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Altdorfer, the Battle of Issus
Albrecht Altdorfer, The Battle of Issus, 1529, oil on panel, 158.4 × 120.3 cm, Alte Pinakothek, Munich. Speakers: Dr.Steven Zucker and Dr. Beth Harris. Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.
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- Are there a lot of Turkish themes in German art? The German-speaking nations fought with the Turks for centuries. I know that in music, Turkish themes show up a lot (Mozart's Rondo ala Turca, his Abduction from the Seraglio, Beethoven has Turkish themes in his Emperor Concerto, the examples multiply from there.)
Is there the same thing in visual art or did the trend not catch on so much there?(13 votes)- The Turks didn't only fight the Germans, they had conflicts with much of the rest of the Europe, except for a strategic alliance with the King of France. The great hero of the Siege of Vienna, Jan Sobieski, was polish. and the hero of Lepanto, Don Juan of Austria, was one of the King of Spain's sons. Also, the same naval battle at Lepanto, between the Christians and the Turks (where the Christians won), was where Miguel de Cervantes fought (the author of Don Quixote).(6 votes)
- At around2:20, Dr. Harris suggests that the moon is rising and the sun setting. Given that the crescent moon is a symbol of Islam, wouldn't it be a more natural interpretation that the light of Christendom is dawning to vanquish the moon's supremacy over the sky?(4 votes)
- From the author:Agreed but this is the directional orientation nevertheless.(5 votes)
- What did the scroll in the painting say? I could not find a literal translation of the scroll (the one framed in red)(3 votes)
- "The painting's subject is explained in the tablet suspended from the heavens. The wording, probably supplied by William's court historian Johannes Aventinus, was originally in German but was later replaced by a Latin inscription. It translates:
«Alexander the Great defeating the last Darius, after 100,000 infantry and more than 10,000 cavalrymen had been killed amongst the ranks of the Persians. Whilst King Darius was able to flee with no more than 1,000 horsemen, his mother, wife, and children were taken prisoner.»"
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_of_Alexander_at_Issus#Description(2 votes)
Video transcript
(jazzy music) Female: We're in the
Alte Pinakothek in Munich and we're looking at Albrecht Altdorfer's The Battle of Issus. Male: Now, Altdorfer is a German artist that in this case was working
for the Duke of Bavaria. Female: The Duke asked
him to do a painting of the Battle of Alexander the Great against the Persian King Darius III. This was an incredibly important battle that had even been painted
by the ancient Greeks. Male: This was a real
turning point in history when the Persian Empire was stopped and Alexander was able to move eastward and enlarge his empire dramatically. It also took on a kind
of outsized importance because this was seen as the triumph of the West over the East. Female: And therefore the triumph of Christendom over Islam. Male: Later, yes. That's really what this painting's about. The Persians were long vanquished, and of course Alexander was long gone by the time this painting was made, but the East and the West were still in tremendous conflict. At this point, the Ottoman Turks were pushing into Europe
and would lay siege to the city of Vienna. The Duke of Bavaria was going to assist against the Turks. One can imagine how important
this ancient subject would be because it not only shows
how noble this enterprise is and how historic, but it also suggests that the West will be victorious. Female: And that that's God's plan; that there's a righteousness
in that victory and Altdorfer really communicates
that in so many ways. Male: I think it's really
important to see this painting, and all of these ideas, as coming entirely from the European perspective. In a sense, Altdorfer
is literally giving us the vantage point of the Europeans. We can see a city just by the coastline, perhaps the city of Constantinople, just at the border
between Europe and Asia. Over on the right,
across the Mediterranean, we can see the Delta of the Nile and we know that's Egypt. There is this tremendous
ambition in this painting that means that this battle is critical for the entire world. Female: We have the sense
of that in the cosmos, in the heavens itself; on the left, the moon ascending, and on the right, the setting sun. We've got the particularities
of the battle. When we look close, we can see individual soldiers with lances and bows and arrows, and the tumult on the ground of battle. Male: And not just a
few individual soldiers, but hundreds, thousands,
of individual soldiers where the hairs of the
feathers in the helmets are rendered with a kind of
precision that is dizzying. Female: At the same time, as
we get all of that detail, we also have this sense of almost the way a general would sit on a hilltop and direct the battle and send certain forces in certain directions, so we have a sense of
tactics and strategy here by Alexander and Darius. Male: This is made for somebody who is goig to lead troops in battle. We do have an extraordinarily
privileged view here. We can see the chariot of Darius fleeing even as the troops clash all around him. We can see that he's specifically fleeing from one mounted soldier,
and that's Alexander. You can see that the
troops behind Alexander are in orderly formation. There's discipline and strength; whereas, Darius' troops seem
to be spinning and fleeing. You can see his standards, his flags, which are now in disarray. Female: There's this complete
collapsing of time here, because on one hand, this is Darius and Alexander and this battle. At the same time, this is
the Turks and the West. because the soldiers in Alexander's army wear the armor of contemporary soldiers. Male: There really is this conflation. Again, although I think the artist was trying to be very
careful about the geography and actually consulted maps in order to put this together, we have to remember that this is not a historically accurate rendering in any sense. It is determined by its historical moment, it is a view that is
meant to flatter the Duke. It's a view that is meant
to flatter the West. Female: And to inspire the Duke and give him a sense of the
righteousness of his cause. Male: And the fact that the cosmos itself, that God is on his side. (jazzy music)