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Van der Weyden, Crucifixion Triptych

Rogier van der Weyden, Crucifixion Triptych, c. 1445, oil on oak, center panel: 101 x 70 cm, each wing: 101 x 35 cm (Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna). Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.

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  • blobby green style avatar for user Alan Montgomery
    According to the Bible (I think this is true!!!) the cross was mounted on top of a hill and there were three crosses.The painter also has done as if it was day time wheras it was late afternoon.Why the bright colours and blue angels?
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    • piceratops ultimate style avatar for user Bonnie McLeish
      Maybe the artist isn't interested in a realistic portrayal of the crucifixtion. Sure it's a very sad time but for christians it means that we are no longer held accountable for sin so it is also a time for rejoicing. The three crosses would distract us from Christ, the most important part of the scene, and personally I wouldn't find a dark painting quite as interesting. Although this picture may not be historicly accurate, I think it portrays the important aspects of the crucifixtion story.
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  • leaf orange style avatar for user Jeff Kelman
    We have seen a solid stream of videos now about works made using oil paint. Oil certainly has been described to have luminescent qualities and other positive qualities, but what about its expense and what sorts of oils would have been used? I know we learned quite a bit about the expensive lapis lazuli stone that would have been bound with animal glue to form a paint and other paints, but I would love to learn about the oils used during this time. Could we get a video about early renaissance oil painting please?
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  • leaf green style avatar for user Qrious
    According to Wikipedia Veronica is the Latin form of the Greek name Berenice, meaning "she who brings victory", but that in medieval etymology Veronica was sometimes wrongly supposed to derive from Latin vera (true) and Greek eikon (image). At , do they mean that Veronica meant "true image" to the painter?
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  • leaf red style avatar for user Smokie Thigpen
    @ Does the clothe floating around Christ look like an omega to anyone else?
    Could that be symbolic of the "end of his life on earth?'
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  • leaf green style avatar for user Frazier
    I think it's interesting that, apart from the fact that he's hanging on a cross, Jesus really doesn't seem that injured. I mean he was also whipped to within an inch of his life but for some reason this doesn't show it. What do you think?
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    • aqualine ultimate style avatar for user DragonRider135
      If an artist painted Christ the way he really looked it would be absolutely horrific. It is also kind of unimaginable to us because we do not use whipping as a form of punishment anymore and the amount of lashes given to him should have killed him as it was. He would barely look human. It would be bones and torn flesh and blood everywhere. Not something people think about very often. And definitely not something they would want to look at.
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  • male robot hal style avatar for user Alex
    Was it cut up and framed with hinges for space reasons? Where did it originally hang?
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    • leaf green style avatar for user Stuart W
      To answer where it originally hung, all we can be certain of is that it was in a church or chapel, more likely a chapel (since it was commissioned by a patron, and that was practice).

      Now for the frame and hinges; it's quite large, so it's possible that it was cut up for space or transportation, but this painting was commissioned not long before reformation swept through the region. This painting is part of the renaissance's move to naturalism but many - but not all -- reformers saw this as idolatry; this piece was also commissioned by a patron who had the artist venerate him by equating him with the saints who stood by Christ's side! This is in essence an indulgence, a good work that might save the patron from purgatory. Mobilizing this triptych would make moving it away from angry mobs of reformers, who were after the "idolistic" art of the previous generation, feasible. Of course, this painting also endured the Nazi's campaign of Europe, further obscuring it's true history.
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  • piceratops ultimate style avatar for user Lauren Swalec
    Are W's pronounced like V's in Flemmish? (Is that even the proper word for the language? Maybe they speak Dutch ...)
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  • blobby green style avatar for user cheery.reaper15
    Is there significance to the shape that Christ's cloth manifests? It certainly seems to mirror the wings of the angels to his upper left and right.
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  • leaf orange style avatar for user Jeff Kelman
    At , Dr. Zucker uses the word "Arabesque" to describe Christ's loincloth fluttering about his body. What is the meaning of this word and the usage in this context?
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  • duskpin ultimate style avatar for user LouLou Schiavo
    why does the female patron look like she's smiling?
    was there something too be happy about?
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Video transcript

(piano playing) Steven: We're in the Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna and we're looking at a Rogier van der Weyden, one of the great Flemish artists of the 15th century. This is his crucifixion. Beth: It's divided into three parts that are connected by hinges. But it didn't always look this way. Steven: It was originally one large panel. Somebody later cut it into three parts, put a hinge on it, but what's so interesting is that Rogier van der Weyden had originally conceived of this as a triptych. That is to say, he created a painting that made it look like it was a triptych. Beth: And you can still see the frame on what is today the right and left panels, the frame that is that he painted. Steven: So it was an illusion of the thing that it has now become. (laughs) Beth: That's true. (laughs) It's quite complicated. Steven: So let's look at the image itself. The large central panel has Christ on the cross in the center. He's being mourned by the Virgin Mary at his feet. John the Evangelist is coming to comfort her. The two figures on the right would have been the patrons of Rogier van der Weyden. These are the people who paid the artist to make the painting, the donors. Beth: Interestingly the artist included them within the space of the crucifixion, right near Mary and John. Something that was really an innovation. Steven: So there's kind of an incredible intimacy here. They are present, they are watching. Actually they're not quite present. The artist has separated them only by that small fissure in the earth. Beth: And so they would have seen themselves at the crucifixion. In that way, paintings like this were aids in prayer so that you could move from the painting to your own mental image of the crucifixion and imagine what this moment was like for Mary, for Christ, for St. John. Steven: In an interior sense and in fact if we look at the male donor, he seems to be looking at the scene itself, whereas the female patron seems to be having that kind of interior conversation that you were speaking of. So characteristic of the northern tradition is this intense focus on the particular, on a kind of careful rendering, a kind of clarified vision. And look at the heavenly city of Jerusalem in the background. Now this might look like a contemporary northern city, and it kind of does, I think van der Weyden was more looking out his window than looking at Jerusalem. Beth: Or sort of using that as the inspiration. Steven: But nevertheless, it is meant to be the heavenly Jerusalem. And you can see the way he delights in the kind of architectural detail, you can see some Gothic lancet windows and just a bustling city. Beth: And that clarity is in the background but it's also in the foreground. We see it in the fluttering loincloth that Christ wears. That unrealistically loops up and back and around sort of framing his body. Or we could look down at the careful rendering of the ruffles around Mary's face. Or in the fur worn by the donors around their cuffs and collars. Steven: When you mentioned the cloth that wraps around Christ's waist, it does remind us that we've left the physical world and we're looking at the spiritual world above. And that kind of arabesque will become a motif in later northern painting. On the two side wings, we have two other important Saints. Mary Magdalene on the left and Veronica on the right. Beth: Mary Magdalene is holding a jar and that's the jar of ointment with which she anointed Christ's feet. And on the right we see Veronica whose cloth wiped Christ's face while he was carrying the cross and whose image miraculously appeared on that cloth. She holds it so delicately, like it's such a very fragile but precious object and in the way that she holds it and the way she tilts her head, and also if we look at Mary Magdalene who wipes the tears from her eyes with her cloak, we see something that is very characteristic of Rogier van der Weyden and that is an interest in emotions. Steven: That sense of emotion can be seen in the angels above, but it can also be seen so vividly in the Virgin Mary's face and St. John's face. There's an intensity of the trauma of this torture that they've witnessed. Beth: Look at Mary. This looks like a woman who's been crying for hours. Her face is pale and red, her eyes are mostly closed and puffy, and the way that she lifts up her arms and embraces the cross so desperately as the blood drips down from Christ's feet and she presses her cheek against it. Steven: Veronica is so interesting to me because she holds that cloth, that true image of Christ. Her name, Veronica, means "true image," and so it's a perfect kind of a lighting. Beth: And she holds up an image of Christ that looks miraculously very real and it's miraculous, to me, what Rogier van der Weyden has been able to achieve on this triptych. (piano playing)